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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I legit had no idea there were anti-surrogacy people out there.  Wow.[/quote]

She is a crazy person.[/quote]

Personally (as one of multiple anti-surrogacy posters in this thread), I would say the person defending an exploitative and cruel industry is the crazy one, but people who want to exploit the vulnerable always come up with pretzel logic to justify their exploitation. [/quote]

[b]But how are they vulnerable?  [/b]All I have been hearing for the last two years is that the government should not have a voice about women and their bodies.  How is this any different?  Her body, her choice.

Or do you think you are the savior of the poor and unintelligent who don't know any better? [/quote]

Is this a serious question? Are you kidding me?

It’s bizarre to me how people who presumably support labor laws and safe workplaces suddenly become the most horrific of rampaging capitalists when it comes to something they want for themselves. [/quote]

Either women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies or not.  It is black and white.

If it is not, then be prepared to support abortion bans and stop gender surgery for minors because you believe the government knows best how people should be using their bodies. [/quote]

Are you a child? Do you not understand that there are all kinds of legal limits on what you can do with your body, and for very good reasons. I can’t pay you to cut your hand off, for example. Or buy one of your kidneys. This has nothing to do with abortion.[/quote]

I can certainly chose to give someone my kidney. Are you saying that if surrogacy was completely free you’d be ok with it?[/quote]

If surrogacy was only limited to altruistic surrogacy, the rates would drop like a stone. [/quote]

I fail to see what your point is. Surrogacy is ok as long as it is free? That’s not exploitative?[/quote]

If someone just wants to do it for a family member, it’s a family affair. When compensation enters the picture, yes, it’s absolutely exploitative.[/quote]

You are exhausting. You don’t get to make that decision for every woman. Worry about your own womb. [/quote]

So you agree that a woman should be able to sell one of her kidneys, yes?[/quote]

Again, organ donation is a thing. U couldn’t care less is someone made money doing it too. But a child is not an organ. So it is a nonsensical argument. [/quote]

We all know organ donation is “a thing”.  The question is simple: should it be legal for a person to SELL an organ?

What if a person just wanted to rent out their kidney for 9 months and then have it returned?  That seems comparable to renting out a womb, right?[/quote]

The topic of this thread is surrogacy. If you want to talk about the ethics of organ donation, start a separate thread. It has nothing to do with surrogacy. Women have been carrying children for other women for millennia. [/quote]

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