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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Is there evidence that traffic cameras have made DC safer? [/b]Obviously, people slow down when there's cameras. But the flip side is that people drive worse when they know we've turned traffic enforcement over to the cameras and, if you're on a street with no cameras (which is most of them), you can do anything you want. How do we know those two things net out to something better than when we didn't have cameras and motorists had to worry about cops pulling them over? [/quote] Yes, there is evidence that traffic cameras make streets safer. There's no asterisk for *except in DC.[/quote] Here's the number of people in DC killed by speeding drivers in past dozen years. Kindly point out to us where traffic cameras started making a difference. 2022 -- 9 2021 -- 12 2020 -- 15 2019 -- 10 2018 -- 9 2017 -- 12 2016 -- 8 2015 -- 11 2014 -- 12 2013 -- 11 2012 -- 5 2011 -- 15 2010 -- 8 Note: the higher numbers cited in another post include ALL traffic deaths, which include people killed by drunk and stoned drivers, pedestrians stepping in front of buses, motorists having heart attacks, etc. Obviously traffic cameras can't possibly do anything about those. [/quote] Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller? [/quote] There have been multiple responses to your post. You just don't like the responses.[/quote] Actually, no one has answered the question. Tell us: which year is it? You wouldnt think this would be that hard of a question if traffic cameras actually reduce deaths. [/quote] You: Here are the last 6 times Mercury was in retrograde. How does this affect pizza delivery times? It should be an easy question to answer! In other words, your question is based on inaccurate data and false premises. Multiple posters have explained this to you. [/quote] All we've gotten is a lot of evasive non-answers and poor analogies. Again: Here's the number of people in DC killed by speeding drivers in past dozen years. Kindly point out to us where traffic cameras started making a difference. 2022 -- 9 2021 -- 12 2020 -- 15 2019 -- 10 2018 -- 9 2017 -- 12 2016 -- 8 2015 -- 11 2014 -- 12 2013 -- 11 2012 -- 5 2011 -- 15 2010 -- 8 Note: the higher numbers cited in another post include ALL traffic deaths, which include people killed by drunk and stoned drivers, pedestrians stepping in front of buses, motorists having heart attacks, etc. Obviously traffic cameras can't possibly do anything about those.[/quote] Absent medical events, deaths require force. Force requires speed. I’m sorry that this basic logic escapes you. It’s not impossible for a car traveling 25mph to kill someone, but it’s unusual. Regardless of what factors MPD opts to designate as the primary cause (and they should probably not be doing this, as it’s scientifically vacuous), we can safely presume that speed was a factor in most fatal crashes.[/quote]
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