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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive. [/quote]

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice.   Everyone will respect your decision.  Just stay out of this matter for other women.  It does not concern you.[/quote]

But it concerns you? [/quote]

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me.  Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me.  Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me.  These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me.  One of my DDs was conceived via IVF.  They're targeting  "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.[/quote]

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human 
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.[/quote]

This is the characteristic you are missing.   Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda.   Women's reproductive rights will be returned.[/quote]

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?

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It is easy to explain.   Reproductive decisions belong to the women.  Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact.   Our laws should reflect that reality.[/quote]

That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.[/quote]

This is the ignorance of the forced birthers.  Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth.  They do not encourage it.   They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.[/quote]

Abortion bans have had the consequence of increasing infant mortality in TX over the last 2 years, as well.  All those pregnancies with fatal fetal conditions that could not legally be aborted turned into babies that instead died shortly after birth, causing ubtold physical, emotional, and financial harm to their families.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/analysis-suggests-2021-texas-abortion-ban-resulted-in-increase-in-infant-deaths-in-state-in-year-after-law-went-into-effect
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Analysis [u]Suggests[/u] 2021 Texas Abortion Ban Resulted in Increase in Infant Deaths in State in Year After Law Went into Effect

Researchers use [i]statistical modeling[/i] to [color=red]estimate[/color] infant deaths expected if one of the country’s most stringent state abortion laws had not been enacted.
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Yes, it is an estimate because no one knows with certainty that those families would have all chosen to terminate, instead.  However, that CHOICE was taken away from them.
I've known four such situations within a small circle of my family and friends.  3 chose to terminate once it became obvious that there was no hope for more than a few hours of life.  One chose to carry the pregnancy as far as possible.  Baby was delivered several weeks early, comfort care provided by the hospital, and baby died after about an hour.  But, the point is, my family member and friends all had that choice.  Families in TX did not.[/quote]

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