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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]*So you would create non-humans [color=red]without[/color] their own thoughts and feelings.*

Sorry, the first sentence was mistyped. [/quote]

I never said that.  God can’t create a space or people with free will but no evil?

Well then heaven is gonna SUCK.[/quote]

So how can people have free will if God takes the ability of humans to choose for themselves away?

Free will is free. Totally free. Free will is not predetermined, programmed, AI creatures that look like humans, talk like humans, but aren’t human. Humans are individual beings.

We are unable to fully serve God in this life due to sin, but in heaven "every curse will no longer be" (Revelation 22:3). We will not be under the curse of sin any longer, so everything we do will be worship in heaven. We will never be motivated by anything other than our love for God. Everything we do will be out of our love for God, untainted by our sin nature.

Heaven is a different place than earth. But really since you don’t believe in God, why do you care? You don’t believe in any of this stuff; why are you so worried about it?

This has zero bearing on your life, why is it so important you endlessly debate things you don’t believe in?[/quote]

Answer this question: Is there free will in heaven?[/quote]

Answer this question: Do you believe in God?

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.

Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.

In heaven we are completely conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28–30). We will not want to sin. In heaven there will be no temptation to lure us and no devil to deceive us. We will face no test; our moral state will be secure. Jesus has a truly free will yet is without sin, so will we retain a free will yet be without sin. We will be like Him.

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.[/quote]

So you refuse to answer the question?

Is there free Will in heaven?[/quote]

Answer this question: [u]Do you believe in God?[/u]

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.

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Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.[/color]

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.[/quote]

I asked you first, and you keep DODGING THE QUESTION.  You are doing that and you know why.  So does everything else reading the thread.

Answer the question: Is there free will in heaven to continue the discussion in context instead of ignoring what you can’t answer or no one will take anything you say as more than straw man BS.  End period.[/quote]

The traditional view of heaven holds that the redeemed in heaven both have free will and are no longer capable of sinning.

It has been answered in 4 separate posts in the last 2-3 pages. [/quote]

No, no it has not been answered.  It is a yes or no question. Just say "YES" or "NO"

But I will take your response as a "YES" as it is the closest so far.

So we have established things can be perfect and yet still provide free will, since there are none of those horrible things in heaven.  Therefore they can exist on the world where I am god too.  Argument over.

Now I will answer your question, as I promised: No, of course I do not believe in a god, because this simple logic leads to the logical conclusion that it is unlikely one exists.  So until someone presents sufficient evidence to the contrary, I will not believe in one.[/quote]

So you will use the non-existent God’s example of heaven as how you would make earth if you were a god?

Aren’t there any better gods you can copy? And why would you need to copy the example of the non-existent God? You don’t have better ways to do all this stuff?

It’s pretty weird you say He doesn’t exist, but say you would do what He does to make the world perfect. [/quote]

Yes, in my fictional scenario where I am god we can use your acceptance of your fictional scenario as evidence that you accept my scenario is possible.  Thanks for doing that, BTW.  As I said, that part of this argument is over now.[/quote]

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