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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Now are there anti-math democrats, because they don't believe that endless money creation devalues the dollar and causes inflation?

Does money really grow on trees?[/quote]

Who in this thread posted anything about "endless money creation?"  Nobody that I've seen.  I guess the strategy is that when you don't actually have an argument, you fabricate a strawman of your own.

Democrats do not support endless money creation for the sake of endless money creation.

But they do support expansionary monetary policy as needed to keep up with other real-world expansionary factors such as growing GDP, population growth, increase in the numbers of businesses and industries, need for critical infrastructure, and so on.

If you had been paying attention, you would have seen that the Biden administration and Federal Reserve have been coordinating to try and drive pandemic-related inflation back down and as a result, our inflation rates are now lower than those of most other countries.  Biden administration drove inflation down from 9.1% at the tail end of the pandemic to 3.4% as of the latest report, lower than most other countries and [b]the lowest of any G7 nations. [/b] Meanwhile you may have forgotten that it was the Trump administration that pumped the economy full of inflation-driving "stimmy checks" which were phased out by Biden.  You may have also forgotten that it was the Trump administration that threw money around with the fraud-riddled PPP loans, which were significantly reformed by Biden to rein in the rampant fraud.

So, not only is it a strawman, it's a fail in every other way.  And don't even bother coming back at us with a lame retort like "man you didn't even understand the question and you're dim" [/quote]

This assertion is post-truth.  Not only does the US not have the lowest inflation of any G7 country, it has the highest inflation rate. It is 25% higher than the next highest and more than four times the rate in the G7 country with the lowest rate.

Italy   0.8%
France   2.2%
Germany 2.2%
UK   2.3%
Japan 2.5%
Canada  2.7%
US   3.4%

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate?continent=america

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Not entirely "post truth" - inflation rates are continually changing.  The US was in fact for a while the lowest of any G-7 nations.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/01/joe-biden/does-the-us-have-less-inflation-than-other-leading/

Last summer, Italy's inflation rate was 5.9%.  France's was 4.3%.  UK was 6.8%

They brought their inflation rates down despite "ThATs SoCIaLIsM!!!" and "renewable energy is a hoax" and all of the other post-truth right wing bunk that gets in the way of sound policy[/quote]Nonetheless, it's lower in parts of europe now. No liberal immediately challenged the claim. But as a dem myself, I will stop believing that our inflation is lower than in europe.[/quote]

Same here.  As a Dem I think it's perfectly fine to update your views based on more current information.   But that said, there's also a huge difference between information that was correct a few months ago but is now outdated (as with comparative inflation data), versus things that were right from the start completely fabricated lies, like "the election was stolen" and most of the anti-vax BS.  In the first, there was at least an element of truth.  In the second, there never was any truth to it.[/quote]

There are a lot of conservatives who attempt to crucify people if their position changes based on newer and more comprehensive or accurate information.  A lot of conservatives seem to be fixated on whatever it was when they first heard it, and refuse to accept that times and circumstances can and do change.  Along with refusing to accept that what they first heard may have been wrong all along.  [/quote]Agreed.  And it's is similar to what the far left does but instead of chronology, they use the oppression pyramid.  [/quote]

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