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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say,  Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.[/quote]

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate. [/quote]

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.[/quote]

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough. [/quote]

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?[/quote]

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence. [/quote]

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.[/quote]

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public. [/quote]

NP. Read through this thread,  and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly.  I get you being annoyed,  but that just is an ugly look for you.[/quote]

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. [b]So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid[/b], even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here. 
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Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.[/quote]

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.”   No, this isn’t a thing.  Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC.  Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport  (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.  [/quote]

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid.  In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way.  The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.[/quote]

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble[i]? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....[/i]might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh![/quote]

Agree. Had quite a chuckle at that post. [/quote]

You guys are hopelessly naive.  The scholarships are officially for merit, and as a PP laid out, they are unaffected if the student decides not to go for the sport.  So what exactly are these schools risking, other than potentially throwing away some merit aid to doofuses like that PP for zero return on investment?  They’re not breaking any rules, and there is no way to prove that they’re trying to recruit athletes on the sly.

It’s like loopholes for taxes.  Everything is in bounds from a legal standpoint even though we all (those of us with functioning brains in our heads) know what is really going on.[/quote]

They’re giving merit aid to virtually everyone. And calling it merit aid. Why do you keep insisting it’s an athletic scholarship?  [/quote]

Because his kid is a loser who couldn't secure an [i]actual[/i] athletic scholarship to a real school so he invented this pretend one so he could tell people his loser kid got a "full ride" to Gettysburg to pitch.[/quote]

See I don’t think it’s that. I bet his/her kid is awesome. The poster is the one with the problem. Needing to make it out to be something that it isn’t. Can you imagine having a parent like that?  Poor kid. [/quote]

To be clear, the 'D3 schools give top secret sports scholarships under the guise of merit aid' morons believe the 12k aid package they gave their kid (and to literally every other warm body that was stupid enough to enroll at a dying school like Gettysburg) actually is for their 'athletic prowess'. Hell, maybe even the coaches phrase it such that big daddy walks away thinking junior is the next Bo Jackson. But, we all know it's not.

Sad, really.[/quote]

lol. You’re a talented writer. And everything you wrote is spot on. I think it’s both: The parents and student-athletes are casual pathological liars and also, the huckster coaches con these easy marks with all the sweet nothings they want to hear. These d3 coaches probably get bonuses not for the wins and trophies, but based off how many saps they con into enrolling at these dying colleges.[/quote]

I know several track coaches - mostly at the D3 level - whose job is tied to increasing enrollment or diversity. I wondered what type of coach takes this on but they are generally confident of their coaching abilities and the ways in which they relate to young people and use these enrollment jobs to get an entry into a profession with declining demographics. This having been said - and it is a problem with the sport - the best coaches tend to be at the high school level. One thing about D3 as compared to a D1 person on scholarship - and I experienced the latter out of economic need - is that an athlete can quit D3 without significant consequences. I couldn’t quit because my scholarship (at easily one of the best schools in the country) would have been pulled. Easy to question why anyone would quit D1 but a diet of 100 mile weeks with a sprinters form and talent is no joke. I really hated subordinating academics to athletics but there was no choice. Now, clearly I was lucky but I view D3 types very positively as a result. Can’t imagine why anyone would brag about a D3 scholarship - not what D3 is about. [/quote]
The Duke track poster is back...[/quote]

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