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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] If you genuinely believe Bias Victim deserves a spot at Selective U., what is Victim's game plan once admitted? To major in dance? How will Selective U. be any different that Biased Public Schools with respect to offering teaching "styles" AND evaluation of material that is not "biased"? [/quote] The game plan is to receive affirmative action in perpertuity for life. This actually happens. The underqualified URM who gets into a selective college, gets another bump in medical school affirmative action for bombing the MCAT and having a low science GPA, and then another bump for residency and another bump during hiring. It never ends. [/quote] Dude. You people really live in fantasy land. And are so hateful I can't understand. And uninformed. I won't say unintelligent because even smart people can be raging bigots.[/quote] Not the PP, but my company leadership explicitly told us to lower the bar for black candidates when hiring. Explicitly. [/quote] They did not. What bar? [/quote] Are the people denying the open secret in academics and the professional world really that clueless? Do you work outside your home? Of COURSE, standards are routinely lowered, and it starts with our friend upthread whose daughter scored 1290 and got into Georgetown. There are only a few thousand black students graduating each year who have even met the baseline of "college prepared." Those who meet those benchmarks are admitted by the elite institutions, but as you go down the rankings, those schools still need to show a diverse class, and kids who truly do not belong in college are admitted. Because of lack of preparation and "mismatch" between preparation and IQ with the rest of the student body, the graduation rates for blacks are much lower, making the pool of students available to create diverse classes in grad schools and corporate hiring classes even lower, and these institutions reach further down the rankings to fill classes. There are innumerable internship programs for minority students at all of our elite corporations trying to compete for these kids as early as possible. [/quote] Um, can you please show us the statistics for students of color not graduating from these top universities. Please. I am the "friend" from above. Shall I reiterate, that 3 semesters in, she had a 3.9 GPA, and is on track to have another 3.9 this semester. Plenty of her classmates who are also students of color--and some of them athletes as well--are thriving. You are making these things up to support your racist garbage.[/quote] +1000 By and large, the T20 are NOT taking URM or low income kids that won't succeed! They are taking highly qualified kids who happen to be URM or low income or first gen. Kids for whom it is incredible (based on their first 18 years/HS attended/etc) to be so highly qualified (and largely it has most to do with their family income levels/quality of schools attended/overall environment for the last 18 years, NOT race). They are finding those who will benefit the most from a T20 education (HiNT: it's not the UMC/Wealthy kid from big east coast city suburbs like DCUM) and giving them that opportunity. Those kids may not have attended a HS where taking Calc BC in 10th grade is even a thing, heck it might not even be an option in 12th. Those kids did not have tutoring starting in Pre-K upward to keep them on track for greatness. Those kids take the most rigorous options available to them given their lives---but the fact they didn't have 12+Aps in HS does not mean they are not extremely smart and willl not be able to do well at a T20 [/quote]
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