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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases![/quote]

Gateway? [/quote]

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge. [/quote]

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.[/quote]

Well said.  I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks.  None in this area.  [/quote]

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.[/quote]

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)[/quote]

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.[/quote]

They purposely don't take committed players to Shooting Star, so they are playing a few strong juniors who haven't quite figured it out yet, but otherwise are taking sophomores playing up or juniors who are looking to play D3. Almost never seniors and, as I said, almost never any D1 commits. They do not care about winning Shooting Star, since it has nothing to do with USA rankings, and use it instead to get the players who need more exposure that chance. They dominate RCCs and have come in 3rd at NCCs for years. They lost to WC in the semi-finals this year by 1 goal--not sure when a team last came that close to WC, then easily won the game to take 3rd again. They won the top pool at Sunshine Showcase last January, which is a USA event to where all clubs send their best players. That and NCCS are where the best teams are determined. You really have to play at those top levels to see what level of play these top 3-4 teams play at. It is a whole different game. We notice all the time how strongly my DD's former club team would beat the D1 team she plays on now. [/quote]

This response is extremely insulting to every college coach that attended Shooting Star Thanksgiving. There were an insane amount of coaches there this year including UNC’s Erin Matson, many many Top D1 program coaches including Duke and just about every D3 coach there to watch games and recruit players. Freedom might not care about representing their club with their best players (committed or not) or play to win, but I promise you every other team came to play, represent and try to win in front of over a hundred college coaches. Not every club has seniors and juniors already committed like Freedom so getting that exposure was huge for them at every level - D1, D2, D3. You talk about Freedom winning Sunshine Showcase. Congrats, that’s great but is Sunshine Showcase the better recruiting tournament because Freedom won? Rhetorical question because I don’t need or want a response. You have already insulted every college coach and youth player who attended Shoooting Star Thanksgiving[/quote]

You seem to be overly sensitive, and sadly misinformed.  
Most of the best clubs, not just Freedom, had their uncommitted or younger players represent them in Richmond.  Nothing wrong with that and no insult to college coaches.  College coaches want to see how players play on water based turf which is why NCC and Nexus in VAB are really the only tournaments that count.  I played hockey in college and one of my former teammates was an assistant coach at a very respectable  D1 program.  I can guarantee you she is not insulted by not seeing clubs rostering only their best players.  [/quote]

Haha. I love when arrogant know-it-alls post on here. Keep ‘em coming![/quote]

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