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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless the Think the insurrection clause does not require due process (ie a conviction FOR insurrection) this will be overruled so quickly . Honestly the judges ruling this way should be removed from the bench and disbarred. Despite what you think of trump everyone is entitled to due process [/quote]
The clause mentions nothing about a conviction, and was designed to bar former confederates who wouldn’t have been convicted of anything.[/quote] so the due process clause doesn’t apply? That’s your argument ?[/quote]
The due process occurred weeks ago when the court determined that Trump engaged in an insurrection as the clause in the 14th describes. [/quote] so that court tried Trump for insurrection? [/quote]
That court determined that Trump engaged in insurrection. The clause in the 14th makes no mention of conviction and was designed to apply to confederates who wouldn’t have been convicted of anything.[/quote] so the argument is it’s the 19th century and Trump is a confederate ?[/quote]

The 14th Amendment doesn't specify the Civil War.  As written, it applies to ANY act of insurrection or rebellion against the United States.[/quote] what other provisions does due process not apply to? [/quote]

There was a trial, and it has worked its way through the Colorado courts. How is that not due process? [/quote]the “trial” was over being on the ballot. Not about if he committed insurrection. [/quote]
The trial determined he engaged in insurrection and therefore is ineligible to be on the ballot. [/quote] could a court determine any other crime was committed this way or would there have to have been a criminal trial? Oh wait, so now you think Trump committed insurrection so clearly he can’t be tried for it or do you think double jeopardy doesn’t apply?[/quote]

Does the constitution — the one you guys are always waving in people’s faces as the ultimate arbiter of our rights and who want the words in the constitution to mean exactly what they say and no more — say specifically that a person has to be tried and convicted in order for the 14th Amendment to kick in? [/quote]

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