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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Very common and I’m a teacher[/quote]

Strange, I’ve heard the opposite from teachers who actually administer the tests. [/quote]

Recent MCPS data has been published. They also share their district averages, which are, as it turns out, very similar to national norms. You can go with known facts or believe in gossip. This is a simple choice.[/quote]

Oh, I go with the facts, not sure why you’d think otherwise. I’ve said so repeatedly on this thread.. I was just pointing out that my conversations with teachers also support the facts.[/quote]

Sorry, I meant to support your viewpoint. Now, I can only guess specifics, but based on what we know, a half-dozen out of 100 may score 99% at a low FARMS school. and although this is hardly every kid, but it does exceed national norms.[/quote]

I think this debate you’re having all depends on where people are coming from. Out our ES - W feeder with low FARMS - I’m not kidding when I say that nearly every parent we talk to about MAP scores reports that their DC got something at or close to 99%. We’re of course self selecting who we discuss this with, but until threads like this one, I assumed that MAP was a fairly easy test to get a 99th percentile on. I’d be genuinely troubled if any of my kids scored less than 95th percentile or so. Not because I think they’re super smart but because my impression is that everyone can score that high. I’m sure there are teachers at our school who would characterize it as pretty common too. District-wide, it’s another story completely. But when people ask “how common is it for x to happen” I think most people answer based on their personal experience and not a nuanced look at the really hard to find data. [/quote]

And my anecdotal experience is exactly the opposite of your anecdotal experience. Where does that leave us? Also who shares their kids scores with other adults? So weird. Most of my friends wouldn’t even know their kids scores.[/quote]

It leaves us with the data that MCPS recently released to the MCCPTA group from a year or two ago and the data they routinely publish to parentview.[/quote]

Absolutely agree. In fact I said pages ago in this thread that the numbers are similar to the national average and that DCUM posters would fall over themselves to explain how and why MCPS is special and different and here we are.[/quote]

You seem to fall over yourself to defend MCPS's lack of openness by suggesting, in the same breath, that the 2 year old data is recent enough to apply to last year (it isn't) and that medians give a clear picture of distribution (they don't).  Whatever you might think about MoCo students being "special" or not, stop shilling for MCPS's continuing failure in this regard.[/quote]

They seem plenty open to me. I mean, the data they just released last year seems current, and they do publish stats to ParentVue. It seems like nothing short of having access to MCPS' systems would satisfy you. Others have also pointed out that this data just doesn't  vary much year over year.[/quote]

Wow.  Absolutely shocking that you simply repeat the discredited statements.  Politic much?

MCPS provided the cutoffs with respect to 5th grade Fall 2021 MAP.  They did so only after an MPIA request (and well after any appeal period wherein a more cogent appeal might have been made by families if such data was available), rather than making them (and similar data) public out of a sense of responsibility to the community they serve.  They did not provide an update last year, despite the cutoffs clearly having become different.  They probably will not provide an update this year.  Medians provided on ParentVUE, whether they vary slightly or more than slightly, are essentially meaningless to this discussion.  One doesn't need access to MCPS systems or have any individual-student data compromised to provide the information.  (Strawman, much?)

But you know all of this, already.  Stop shilling for MCPS.  Time for Jeff to lock this up, hopefully without a no-new-info, reiterate-the-discredited-claim rejoinder by you.[/quote]

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