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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our system isn't set up for disabled, childless, family less adults. It'll be interesting to see how that all plays out. [/quote]

and our current system is also not set up to support pregnant women, postpartum women, and children under the age of 5. Societally and culturally, children are treated horribly in the US and have effectively, no rights. [/quote]

Our society isn't really set up to help anyone at all, is it?  SS and Medicare aren't "help", we pay for them.  Disability income in this society is a joke.

We are a survival of the fittest society.  We don't really care about individual suffering.  Individual suffering is part of America's soul.  [/quote]

This past weekend, I was working at a volunteer event and with three separate people who very recently moved to the US from different countries - Poland, Taiwan, and Germany.

The immigrants from Poland and Germany said they had to leave Europe and that the "social safety net" will be Europe's destruction and, mark their words, it will not be there in 10 years. These were separate conversations. I have no opinion on their conclusions but those were their conclusions.

The lady from Taiwan? She was happy to be there and ready to pitch in.

I am not AT ALL touting the US system. However, I think people don't have a good grasp on the state of life in other places.[/quote]

I am from an Eastern European country that’s not in the EU. 
I think the US social safety net is pretty good, for low income mothers with kids and for low income seniors if they are smart.
That’s why people should take advantage of it while it’s still here. Live with boyfriend, get pregnant, have kids and stay home with them (single mother on paper) and get WIC and SNAP and whatnot. 
Even without it - it’s doable. I moved here as a married woman with a small child, middle class level income. It’s not super expensive if you are ok living in a small house. 
[b]People are just spoiled honestly. They want a big house, they don’t want to bother with kids, they don’t realize what happens if you are alone and out of your mind and there is no one to safeguard you. Hence they don’t have kids.
People from family oriented cultures who came here from nothing - they know what they are doing and making full use of their new opportunities[/b]. They will be the ones at whose mercy the lonely elderly will be pretty soon (in terms of elder care and arranging benefits etc) [/quote]

This.[/quote]

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