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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't really think that TO changed much of anything for colleges. It's just there to confuse parents imo. Before this cycle, they had other policies that effectively discounted value of the scores for some students over others. Now, they are leaving it up to the parents to decide, probably because parents have sued over what they did in their offices. I think it's bad for the students, however. SAT does have predictive value in how students do academically in college. It's not a coincidence that a lot of these selective schools are opening tutoring centers at the same time that more of their applicants have been accepted applying TO. You'll hear eggheads debate this and come up with gerryrigged data to refute it, but the SAT has been around for a long time. Also, common sense.[/quote] Which schools are opening tutoring centers that didn’t have them before TO? I worked at a private T10 and T20 and now at a public R1. The increase in tutoring centers pre-dates TO. I agree that TO has made the admissions process more complicated for students and AOs. Also, standardized tests should be used to validate GPA/academic performance but a student doesn’t need a 1500 to excel at a highly selective college. Based on current research (scholarly and institutional), Covid and online learning have affected college academic readiness and mental health. On average, less than 20% of enrolled students are admitted TO at highly selective schools. Besides math heavy majors, the small subset of TO students are performing the same as non-TO students after the first year of college.[/quote]
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