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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]we're a cycle away from 60% of people not submitting.  and probably three cycles away from most people not bothering to even take it unless PSAT shows you're already about there.  just not worth the squeeze. [/quote]

You're likely more right than wrong here.

People aren't coming to terms with the prospect of test optional becoming more entrenched ( including most of the selective colleges) in the admissions process going forward.[/quote]

What do they need to “come to terms” with? It makes it difficult for schools, but it’s [b]easier for families and students.[/b] My kid is a good test-taker and prepping for the SATs, but…if the schools she was interested suddenly went test blind, she wouldn’t care. Most kids who test high (1500) also have rigor schedules, high GPAs, interesting outside activities, good recommendations, and so on. [/quote]

No it's not.  Now you have a far less idea of which schools are going to accept you and whether you should send in your scores. You have to do a lot more applications and/or do early decision.  It used to be much more predictable.[/quote]

When was it predictable? 1950 for rich white guys?[/quote]

I never said it was predictable, but it used to be much more predictable even 5 years ago.  You could look at your GPA, your SAT score, and the % admitted at a school and assess whether it was a target reach, target, likely etc.  SATs were an important anchoring information--most people submitted them and they are standardized.   Course rigor and GPA are both variable things because they are contextualized with what your schools offer, GPA of others in the school, how schools reformulate GPA, rather than a set number like SAT. ECs and essays were always a wild card.  But you could look at the score distribution of SATs and get a good sense of your chances. [/quote]

Having a good sense of your chances is just another way of saying predictable - which is a lot like saying much more predictable

Selective schools have been rejecting high scoring applicants for fifty years. Not much has changed. [/quote]

No serious person can claim that not much has changed in college admissions since 1973.[/quote]

Much has changed but the fact that high scoring students were being rejected has not. [/quote]

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