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What is "the mission"? 
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+1  also, do you expect people of other religions to engage with the Christian "mission"?[/quote]

The mission of Christianity is to spread the good news. Did you go to Sunday school? It is fundamental to the very essence of Christianity. World history has been shaped by this mission. To ignore this fact is to to ignore reality. It is what it is. To genuinely engage in discussion with Christians is to accept what they have been taught over and over again throughout time. You cannot genuinely engage with a Christian in debate if you ignore this about them. No matter how frustrating it is. [/quote]

Sorry, but I can't really believe that Christians expect people  of other religions and no religion to engage with them if it only can mean becoming a Christian.   Seems to me that in the US people are taught to respect other religions but not taught to expect others to convert to their religion.  Slowly, that respect is being extending to people who do not practice any religion.[/quote]

We might be arguing past each other. I am talking about those who wish to not insult Christians. You would start by respecting what they believe, nothing more. And I didn’t say that Christians “expect” others to concert. [/quote]

Are you saying that "spreading the good news" is not related to people who are not Christians becoming Christians?[/quote]

No I am not saying that. I am saying that is where they are coming from if you would like to understand them so as not to insult them. [/quote]

I think I understand - you are saying Christians (I used to be one) believe they are doing something good and others who don't share that belief should not express it, to avoid insulting Christians.   Is that right?[/quote]

Not quite. In OP’s situation, I would’ve answered the question the neighbor asked. “What church do you go to?” “Oh, I don’t go to church.” And then see what the neighbor says. Perhaps the neighbor lets it drop because the conversation was getting too personal for that particular social gathering. If the neighbor pushed it, then I would disclose that I was atheist. The neighbor should then respectfully engage in normal conversation and not pass judgment, just as the atheist did. [/quote]

From the OP:
"...they asked me about my faith, where I go to church etc."[/quote]

Seems like Christian pp is expecting people to place protecting religious beliefs over expressing their (non)belief.  I disagree, but think I can understand how a religious person would feel this way.   They are accustomed to it and feel threatened by such a change.  It's relatively rare and recent that people would openly express their atheism as OP did.

Atheists no longer "know their place" like women and gays before them.[/quote]

So atheists have had to struggle for civil rights? No.

Atheists (here) have terrible personalities and are too sensitive, while seeing everything as an attack. They aren’t fighting for rights. Get over yourself.[/quote]

Atheists as a percentage of American society: [b]20-29%[/b] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States#

Atheists as a percentage of congress, executive branch or supreme court: [b]< 0.2%[/b]
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/01/04/faith-on-the-hill-2021/

You don't think we struggle for civil rights?

[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/12/PF_01.04.21_faith.on_.the_.hill-0.png[/img][/quote]

americans vote for people who are qualified, trustworthy, and likable. It’s not the voter’s fault so few atheist candidates are qualified, trustworthy, or likable. [/quote]

Thanks for saying it out loud! Everyone, there is your evidence.[/quote]

Candidates for political office aren’t owed anyone’s vote.

If people don’t like atheists, they probably won’t vote for an atheist.

If as pp claimed above that atheists often lie that they are religious to win elections and gain political power- can you blame voters for not trusting them?[/quote]

No, pp did not say that, as anyone can see by reading that post.  Pp said "they identify as Christians". and most likely they are christians, in terms of heritage, church membership, etc, just as many atheists attend religious services.

MD Rep. Jamie Raskin, is Jewish and calls himself a humanist.   Humanists (and lots of Jews) don't believe in God. But he chooses not to call himself an atheist.  Fine.

It matters only to the atheist-accusatory pp and the few, if any, readers who take that person seriously.[/quote]

“I think the point was that there are candidates who are atheist and qualified, trustworthy, and likable, but don't identify as atheists because they fear it would cause them to lose. So they identify as Christians as a way to help them win.

Sort of like the way candidates used to hide their homosexuality, but often don't anymore.”

First of all- if you didn’t post this- stop trying to speak for the pp. The pp clearly stated that atheists tell voters they are Christian and deny what they believe publicly and deceive voters. [/quote]

Please stop trying to talk for pp[/quote]

Sort of like the way candidates used to hide their homosexuality, but often don't anymore.”

These are pp’s own words. Atheists who run for public office have to hide their atheism the way homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. The atheist political candidate hides their atheism and claims to be religious, so people will vote for them.

That’s exactly what pp wrote.

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That doesn't sound ethical. Seems like they need a little religion to give them some guidance in life.[/quote]

Religion in politics drives away from ethics. 
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