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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sounds like lots of disenchanted GDS senior parents (like me) lurking here. Lots of good stuff about this school academically but the CCO is highly variable, but more so is entirely devoid of facts and data, and runs the process like mindful meditation seminar sophomore and junior year and then 0 to 100 senior fall with no straight answers to yes or no questions on whether i should apply here or there. My favorite was the junior year parents meeting where they started with 5 minutes on whether college is right for your kid. I mean WTF guys - we are at a college prep school. For the next kid, I will be much more in command of the process, bringing data, and calling out their lack of numerical approach I also think the 10 school cap has to be raised to 12 or 15. It mostly protects middle of the pack kids but the number hasnt changed in 10 years+. Meanwhile apps are up +20% per year every year since that time. The limit set at 10 helps the registrar and the CCOs but not the kids. At the very least, [b]they can make state flagships unlimited.[/b][/quote] Why?[/quote] Aren't the state flagships generally the land of the middle-of-the-pack kids? If you allow your top kids to apply to them, then where do the middle kids go? Serious question. Limiting apps protects everyone from the top 20% kids. This used to work until this year when SOME (not all) top 20% kids started getting shut out of the top 0-30 schools. The kids likely applied to a few safeties in the 30-70 range and are now attending one of these. But if you give them the ability to apply to unlimited state schools in the 30-70 range, then where do the kids who traditionally matched with those schools (the middle-of-the-packers) go? It's a tenuous balance but these limits are there to help spread the wealth of the admits across the class and protect the lower ranked kids from losing their spots to the top 20% kids.[/quote] i buy into the theory of your case but i'd love some analysis or description why 15 would break things for lower students and 10 does not. See the thing is, like much of the rest of GDS CCO, it's a data free zone. And yes my kid was one of the top 20% of class shut out this year. Will never know but 5 more targets would have really helped this kid given the math. [/quote] I’m sorry that the process has been so stressful and disappointing but what do you mean by shut out? Shot out from Ivies? Shut out from Top 25 schools? Or Shut out more broadly? I am not a current GDS HS parent but I have been in the past. I understand the frustration about the lack of data. [/quote] Can one of the GDS senior parents answer this? What is mean when top 20% kids are talked about as being "shut out?" Is it shut out of top 20? top 40? all schools? Where (please give a generic example) might these kids be now matriculating in the fall? Thank you! As a lower high school parent it's hard to know what to think or how much to worry or what to talk to the school about if we don't understand what is happening this year. [/quote] Senior parent. I want to be careful since this is public but my kid was top 20% of class. hard to know exactly but pretty sure. very high 1400s/1500 SAT. Co head of multiple clubs blah blah. national award in something he's passionate about academically. involved at school and outside like most GDS kids. 3.8 gpa unweighted had a B+ in couple UL classes - otherwise all A range since 9th grade started. Multiple UL classes junior and senior. 0 acceptances in top 35-40 schools by US News. Multiple waitlists. Top acceptance was just under #40 US News. Got into 2 safeties and 2 target. Going to a target. I dont want to name the target for obvious reasons. Kid is happy now but last two weeks of readouts were TERRIBLE for the ego. Target school types for this kid were: Wm & Mary, Brandeis, Case Western, St Andrews, Univ Edinburgh, Santa Clara, Occidental etc. Think something along that line for where kid will attend. Just didnt win the lottery this year. Mostly upset the game changed after 2019 and private school UMC white kids no longer wanted. My gripes w/ GDS - as I've posted here before 1) capping at 10 schools unrealistic w/ applications now up 2x in 4 years 2) no data used/shown by CCO to parents/kids on odds by school for GPA/test 3) the entire approach to AP tests, AP courses, etc [/quote]
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