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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of people who claim to be "donut hole" families have lived lives of increasing lifestyle creep as their incomes have climbed up 200k, and then want to complain that they don't get enough need-based aid. Well, did you really need a new car every 5 years? Expensive vacations? To redo the kitchen? If you want to argue that a family making over 200k is middle class, then live like middle class people -- budget, accept you won't be able to afford everything you want to do, and sock money away for retirement and college. We make well under 200k and this is what we do, and we have friends making over who go out to eat three nights a week, drive luxury cars, and take multiple vacations overseas every year, have weekly cleaners, etc. Those people are not entitled to need-based aid. It's not my fault, or the college's fault, that they chose to just live nicer, more luxurious, easier lives instead of saving their additional income for their child's education. We've scrimped and saved and still won't have enough. AND work in helping professions. I don't cry myself to sleep over the doctors and consultants and well-paid feds who will be disappointed in their FA award while crying into their Tesla upholstery and trying to console themselves on the flight to Aruba. Boo freaking hoo.[/quote] That's fine but look what you've done. You've sacrificed your whole life only to be ripped off by a system where more than half the kids are practically going for free, while maybe a quarter of the parents are rich people for whom $320k is a fraction of an annual bonus. You are kind of the sucker here.[/quote] The kids who are “going for free” have parents who’ve made a LOT of sacrifices.[/quote] Have they? How do you know that? Why are we so quick to assume a family with HHI less than 150k is so noble and deserving but a family that is 200k with some 529 money is a bunch of whiney entitled privileged bastards who should shut up and go to state school if they don't want to spend the rest of their lives as Walmart greeters paying off student loans?[/quote] Wow you’re a real peach. You’re basically saying you think poorer people are lazy freeloaders.[/quote] I don't know who they are. Probably for the most part they are teachers or civil servant types who don't make much but have a lot of job security and good benefits and maybe even pensions (that don't get considered in FA analysis). I'm just saying, the mentality seems to be the "underprivileged" are these noble and beautiful creatures while the [b]hard working professional classes, clawing their way towards a decent life for their families[/b], are entitled privileged whiney ungrateful bastards who need to shut up and go into debt or send their kid to state u... This all dovetails with all these narratives of unearned privilege that are popular now.[/quote] Bolded describes civil servants and lots of families making $70k-$170k very well. Can you stop running your mouth, please? It keeps getting you into trouble. You know not of what you speak.[/quote]
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