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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nobody gets admitted because of race. It's not a bump. Don't  believe it. If there's a toss up between equals and a college realizes their students all are alike, then maybe on occasion given all other things equal someone might get a second look, but all things are equal so it's just the luck of teh draw at that point. Even lying about about race for a scholarship only puts you in the hunt, you're still competing against others on stats. Nobody gets a scholarship just because they are of a certain race, they simply might qualify for it. Even the most diverse colleges fall many percentages points under the representative average of most races, especially Black and Brown.[/quote]

Total BS. Race is critical in admissions to top 20.[/quote]

Yet there are limited spots.  Everyone believes this check box works magic, but even if an applicant can check the box (name your definition) there are far, far more applicants than seats. If the box disappears it won't make way for all the applicants who's parents are here whining. There will be just as many DCUM many rejections as ever. There are something like 300 black students in the Harvard freshman class. It doesn't matter what your kid has done, there are definitely 300 AA kids in the country who are smarter and more accomplished, that is not controversial. Still, if those students [i]are[/i] somehow pushed aside, there are still thousands of applicants better than yours.  Not gonna happen.[/quote]

So:
1) 300 African Americans at Harvard are smarter and more accomplished than anyone else in the country?
[b]2) And if yes, why have their historic stats continued to show standardized test scores approximately 200 points lower on average than Whites and Asians?[/b]

I think you meant that SOME of the AA applicants are just as accomplished as other applicants, but not on average.[/quote]

Since their inception almost a century ago, the tests have been instruments of racism and a biased system. Decades of research demonstrate that Black students ,experience bias from standardized tests administered from early childhood through college.

"We still think there’s something wrong with the kids rather than recognizing their something wrong with the tests," Ibram X. Kendi of the Antiracist Research & Policy Center at Boston University and author of How to be an Antiracist said in October 2020. "Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade Black and Brown minds and legally exclude their bodies from prestigious schools.[/quote]

So you totally buy into the notion that all differences are due to racism?  I don’t.[/quote]

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