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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think MCPS has about 12,000 kids per grade so if you take 15% of that you get 1800. 100 spots for 1800 kids is 5.6 percent of those IN THE POOL. Very low odds.[/quote]

Not that this back-of-the envelope approach is wrong for this kind of discussion, but there are 75 seats at Clemente for upcounty (25 of those are catchment-reserved, or at least used to be as of last year), and not all of the top 15% of scorers meet the other criteria.  Assuming it's more like top 13%, removing the RCMS and TPMS in-bounds populations and using 150 out-of-bounds seats, one gets an estimate of 150 / ((12000 - 500) * 0.13) ~ 10% chance for out-of-bounds pool qualifiers to get in.[/quote]

I didn't realize that was the likelihood of acceptance. So low!

What would be interesting to see is outcomes measurements across these programs. How do they perform compared to other pool qualifiers who didn't get a spot, on say, a variety of metrics? Also, how do they compare to out-of-bounds interest-based lotteries like Argyle, Loiderman, Parkland ? Does standards based lotteries necessarily bring a better outcome that interest based lotteries? [/quote]

I don't know whether MCPS is tracking this information, and it would be complicated by the fact that they've changed the admissions process several times in the last 5 years, but I agree that it would be interesting to look at outcomes for kids who were in-pool but not selected via lottery versus kids who were in-pool and got lucky. The problem is that I'm not sure what metric you would use. Grades? MAP scores? Selective high school admissions? [/quote]

-absolute and relative change on MAP scores
-mean MAP scores
-pre and post Cogat - absolute and relative change
-selective high school admissions rate
-maybe something like SSAT, pre and post absolute and relative change

As a former middle school/high school magnet student myself, I'd posit that there's actually no significant difference in outcomes for at least the ability based lotteries, at least as it's currently devised. Most of kids' outcomes are from the parents, not because of trips to Florida or Mission Possible or SRPs. But I know that's an unpopular opinion :)

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