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But thanks for helping me prove my original point (despite the distractors) is still valid.  The claim that this very ethnically diverse area was EVER "predominantly (red) Russian" would be a false claim.  You might try to argue that Russia "conquered" the region by Stalin from a nationality standpoint, but it was never ethnically Russian.  Since this part of history is never taught to Russians (yet people affected may remember and pass down to generations), Russian propagandists often trip themselves up by making statements they believe are true, but the locals / natives know are not.[/quote]

Stalin's deportations are common knowledge.  I was in high school in the late eighties and it was part of the history curriculum.

You are a propagandist, rewriting reality and claiming things that are obviously, provably wrong.

Still laughing over your stupid claim that "everyone thinks Simonyan is Russian".  Like who? Your moron Russian studies professor?[/quote]

Hmm.  Since you're Russian, you probably need to directly discuss the matter directly with Simonyan.  I'm sure you two would hit it off.

But if not, maybe you could watch this in the meantime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyYqWFLqeBg

Simonyan: "The fact that I work and the way I feel, I serve Russia when my Motherland, my nation sees fit.  Many thanks, I bow my head.  I'm still trying to earn my first medal, much less my fourth.  If they see fit to give me an award, then I see it's fit to say, "I serve Russia".  I say it with pride."

Commentator: "During the press conference the following day, I heard of a new goal orientatiom which [Putin] spoke about the intrical unity of Russian people which w ehave to achieve without fail.  It was voiced for the first time, that all of our activities pertaining to Ukraine are mainly or largely determined through this goal.  Do you see this as an advancement in our common and governmental world view, or am I exaggerating?"
Simonyan: "To me, this is not an advancement, but a more sincere and more public acknowledgement that this was always the goal.  I'm sure you have no doubt that even 20 years ago Putin wanted to gather the Russian world to defend Russians and to have this opportunity.  [..] Russians must be unified, or at least under protection."

Simonyan: "I think this is exactly what [Putin] meant.  If we are able to defend the interests not only of Russia withim it's geographical boundaries, not only the interests of a map, but the interests of our people, the way many other nations do it; for example, the way the Jews do it, then we should use those abilities and we should expand those abilities.  What do we consider the interests of Russian people?  I believe this is a UN rule on nationality and ethnicity.  It is not determined by blood. Have you ever tried a DNA test?"
Commentator: "I did.  I was interested to see what kind of blood is in me.  
Simonyan: "It's very funny, really funny what's in there. A real windbreak."
Commentator: "I often get into arguments over my wording that I will continue to use: "multinational Russian people."  This is the wording that I use.  I'm being attacked from both sides about this, but I believe that this is the essence of our people."
Simonyan: "There is an internationally accepted expression, it might be a UN expression, I would have to check.  You're very close to it.  Ethnicity* is defined by two factors: the first one is self-determination, as to whom you consider yourself and the second characteristic is the language.  What is your native language.  Whoever you think you are and what is your language, that is your nationality, even if you are a [black-skinned person - I can't write what she really said here since it's offensive]."

* = initially she said "ethnicity" then later changed to "nationality", so unclear which she actually meant?  The funny part is look at the reactions and expressions of the other guests at the end of the clip.

Again, proves the point. [/quote]

It doesn't prove anything but your stupidity and inability to read the reality.

Simonyan=ethnic Armenian.  End of story.

But then again, like your ignorant ilk, you seem unable to distinguish between citizenship and ethnicity.

Please go ahead and tell Palestinian Israelis they are Jewish, I'd love to see that. [/quote]

Um.  Again I think you proved my point?  The analogy you used ("please go ahead and tell Palestinian Israelis they are Jewish")?  Replace the word "Palestinian Israeli" with Ukrainian, and "Jewish" with the Word "Russian" and you get..

Please go ahead and tell Ukrainians they are Russian, I'd love to see that. [/quote]

No one said Ukrainians are Russians, stop fighting imaginary fights. Again, for the slow ones:

Simonyan=ethnic Armenian.

Number of people who think Simonyan is an ethnic Russian = zero. Excepts DCUM dummy.[/quote]

Um.  Well.  Actually the people in Armenia doesn't think she's Armenian, so does that count?

"Konstantin Zatulin, who has been a fierce supporter of Armenia for many years, has been banned from entering Armenia by the current leader of Armenia," Simonyan wrote on Telegram. "Me too, by the way."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hawkish-russian-broadcaster-simonyan-says-she-has-been-banned-armenia-2022-10-26/

(BTW - not sure who you were going back and forth with, but it wasn't me, so...)[/quote]

Er - are you under the impression that Armenian heritage = persona automatically grata in Armenia?

"Banned to enter Armenia" equals "definitely not an ethnic Armenian"?  In which twisted logic?

This is an anonymous forum so it's hard to say who's going back and forth with who, but my original label "moron" is reserved for the person who breathlessly announced that "everyone thinks Simonyan is Russian and she isn't!"  Since, well, hey, Simonyan. [/quote]

She's ethnically Armenian but I could totally see how some other Armenians might look upon her as a Putin sycophant and Russian boot licker.[/quote]

"Armenian" is a description of ethnic makeup, not of moral qualities.

But I see that four pages later, we are FINALLY in agreement that she is, in fact, not an ethnic Russian, and it is not at all a secret a moron PP claimed it was. Encouraging! [/quote]

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