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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How is Umich vs Penn for engineering?[/quote] No difference unless you want to work in finance/consulting…what Penn engineering gives you is more optionality at lower gpa levels If you want to work in engineering / tech, a 3.5+ grad from Michigan will be the same as Penn [/quote] That’s Nonsense. That’s like saying there’s no difference between Harvard and Michigan in engineering. You’d probably say Harvard is better than Penn too, since it’s ranked higher by USNWR as a university. Any grad from Michigan with an equal GPA to a Penn grad in tech/engineering will be looked on similarly. Michigan is known as an engineering powerhouse; Penn, not so much. [/quote] Employers do treat kids from the ivys preferentially. I have a kid at Michigan who went through 100+ interviews to get a CS internship last summer (4.0 GPA, Dean's list, etc.). His friends from Penn had no issues walking into Amazon for a CS internship. Another got into GS for a finance internship. The interview process as described by those kids was 'light' and they didn't seem to have applied to a lot of places. I suspect employment will also be treated the same way.[/quote] You're speaking out of your ass, and it's comically obvious. Nobody is getting "100+ interviews" for "CS internships" (most of the time, kids have roughly a 5% response rate for interviews) and those at Penn, etc. are struggling just as much as kids at other schools to land interviews. The only schools that get preference are the "big 4" CS schools (Stanford, Berkeley, CM, MIT) and a few extreme-name-brand schools (not Penn, but Harvard/Princeton) for Bay Area unicorn startups that don't recruit elsewhere, as well as a select number of schools with notable CS/math programs for trading firms ("CalTech, Carnegie-Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, MIT, NYU, Princeton, Stanford, University of California (Berkeley), U Chicago, U Illinois, Yale": https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1098719.page#23909788). Note that Penn isn't on that list! Also, regarding this -- "His friends from Penn had no issues walking into Amazon for a CS internship. Another got into GS for a finance internship" -- sorry to tell you, but the [i]I know a guy[/i] doesn't beat out traditional and long-tested methods of sampling. And Amazon isn't particularly impressive: they're known for giving pre-interview coding assessments to a majority of the people who apply. If the Michigan kid failed the coding assessment, that's on him.[/quote]
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