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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have had one very bad vaginal birth with forceps that shredded my pelvic floor, and one scheduled C section. If I could go back and do it again, I would have had two scheduled  C sections. Dealing with major pelvic organ prolapse in my 30s has destroyed my self confidence, sex life, quality of life, and ability to be active. Oh and I have urinary incontinence now and can’t poop properly either. The rest of my life—until I die— will now suck because a bunch of stupid midwives and a moronic natural childbirth instructor made me terrified of C sections. Now I can’t chase my children or stand in line or walk without my vagina basically trying to turn itself inside out. My bladder is basically falling out the front wall of the vagina and the rectum is pushing into and falling out the back wall. It feels like someone basically blasted a hole into my crotch, all the time, and my pelvic organs are falling out through the hole. It’s horrifying and disgusting and makes me
Feel disfigured. Tampons just fall out now - even the biggest size - and water gushes inside me when I swim
Or bathe and then slowly drips out when I get out. I have to wear maxi pads because there’s no muscle left to
Hold in a cup or disk. And Don’t get me started about the problems with sex. Pelvic PT can’t fix this and the only solution modern medicine has  is a massive pessary that is incredibly uncomfortable and hurts or major reconstructive surgery with a high failure rate and requiring at least 6 months to a year to be fully recovered. So yeah, I would take all the risks of a C section twice over if I didnt have to live this way. [/quote]

A major criticism of obstetrics that I have is that these topics need to be discussed well in advance before the s**t starts swirling the toilet. Once you are in hard labor and baby is going into distress, informed consent cannot be given. You do not have time to research the topic or to get a second opinion. I got a very informative VBAC informed consent paper that laid out all the pros and cons and risk and mitigating factors. Every prospective vaginal birth patient should be presented with such a document and scenarios where pink flags start appearing. At what point do you pull the trigger on a C section? I am pro vaginal birth but I do agree there are scenarios where a C section would have been better. The decision to convert to a C needs to happen while it is still a pink flag situation. Once it is a red flag situation the decision is made for you (i.e. likely whatever is faster). [/quote]

This is why I had a doula. My MIL once derisively said when she gave birth she didn’t need a doula, but no one knows if they will need an advocate and a husband who has witnessed either no or maybe one other births is not going to be able to advocate effectively. You wouldn’t go to court without a lawyer, why would you give birth without a doula? I don’t understand their underutilization when so many north outcomes and experiences in the US are so bad.[/quote]

A doula can only advocate if she knows your opinion. Say you have been pushing for two hours, baby isn't close, OB says a C section for forceps delivery is looking more likely, what do you do at that point? When you are that far along in labor you are not in a normal state of mind. Are you going to research on your phone between contractions? A second opinion is impossible. [/quote]

It's pretty obvious you've never had a doula. You create a birth plan with your doula early on in the pregnancy and review different scenarios. And you speak to your doula throughout the birth process, they give their opinion about what's going on, and a doula can translate what a doctor is saying and slow things down so everyone can take some time to consider what's going on. Doulas can also do massage and reiki and make adjustments to help you feel more comfortable while giving birth. They can also remind you and help you go into different positions to either increase or decrease contractions. [/quote]

I did an induced unmedicated vaginal birth for #1 without a doula. I didn't need one because I am stronger than you.

For #2 I had a failed induction with a doula. She did not tell me once the water was broken I'd bought a birth one way or another within 18 hours. So no, she magically didn't help me. What would have helped me was my midwife not ducking out on the induction discussion because it made her uncomfortable (she didn't want to do it), i.e. informed consent BEFORE things start heading south, exactly as I described. I also was not informed a failed induction can lead to a hysterectomy due to uncontrolled bleeding. Not sure why you think a doula, who doesn't have formal medical education, should be doing the doctor's and midwive's job of informed consent for them.

Thanks for your a-hole dismissive comment, though! [/quote]

I feel sorry for you. You are not stronger than me, but you have way more trauma that you haven’t dealt with and it makes it you a really ugly personal. I’m sure you have a hard time being with yourself. I can’t imagine the pain of being you.[/quote]

NP.

WOW. Why are natural birth advocates on DCUM so routinely and casually cruel all of the time? The above is an exceptionally nasty and cruel thing to say.

Their behavior doesn’t really make doulas and natural birth look good, because apparently going that route turns you into a cruel person.  [/quote]

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