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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level. [/quote]

Almost, but not quite![/quote]

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference![/quote]

T[b]his!  A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies.  Love it.[/quote][/b]

No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.

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I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.

T[b]hose of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! [/b]Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.

Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications :-)? [/quote]

No, I haven't ever seen anyone wearing ND stuff.  And football doesn't impress me.[/quote]

If you went to a Catholic HS (like me) they shove ND down your throat from a very young age. They make it your dream, like it or now. For goodness sake, our fight song was the ND fight song with a few of the words changed. Our nuns were The Sisters of Notre Dame. [/quote]

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