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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, I agree (I'm the PP). I think it's a really dangerous time for Ukraine and anyone in Europe. No one likes to be humiliated and this is humiliating for Russia. It does though make the Democrats look "strong on defense", not that it matters to the MAGA crowd anymore. I think my comments were more directed at the pessimists rooting for Ukraine's demise and to show that Biden made a terrible foreign policy decision. Instead, it looks like supporting Ukraine was the right move. It unified NATO, strengthened western alliances, has allowed the U.S. to test out all kinds of new weapons and at a relatively low cost to the U.S. (and without loss of U.S. lives), has revealed that Russia's military was nothing but a paper tiger, has isolated Russia economically and politically, and has potentially provided the U.S. with a resilient ally on Russia's doorstep. I don't at all want to discount the terrible consequences that this has been to Ukraine though. I think I'm just venting my frustrations with Trump and the MAGA crowd who supported Putin and other dictators like him.[/quote]

Half of what you wrote is lies.  The other half, well....I am sure Ukrainians are super pleased Americans were able to use their misery to test out new weapons. Hey, Raytheon's stock is up and I'm sure that's all that matters to you.

I mean how dumb do you have to be to call Russia's military a paper tiger and Ukraine a capable, resilient ally when Ukraine could not fight without assistance?

Finally, support for dictatorships is not limited to the "MAGA crowd" - every single American president, R or D, has gone on to Riyadh to fellate the Al-Saud, and the present one is no exception so please don't lie that America has a problem with dictatorships. They get along just fine.[/quote]

They pay homage to KSA because of oil. Why not decouple oil from foreign policy as the dems have tried to do since the late 1970's?[/quote]

Uh, it's only Trump and you MAGAs that are praising Putin and near fascists like Orban. Where was CPAC held this year? At least the Democrats are trying to eliminate our dependence on oil and gas with alternatives and [b]reluctantly support the Saudis [/b]as a check to Iran. And your comment about lies. Yeah, that's the idiot MAGAs. You don't even deign to provide reasons for it. Just spout off what you "feel" to be the case, whether it's true or not. Kind of the "big lie". You MAGAs are all the same. Stupid, ignorant, and unwilling to confront the reality, especially when it collides with your world view.[/quote]

You don't really know whether this support is reluctant or enthusiastic, you just invent whatever works for your worldview.

Next thing you know you'll say that America "reluctantly" supports a repugnant thing like land annexation when most-favored nations like Israel do it because....something. [/quote]

So when are you going to respond to the fact that your leaders are praising Putin and Orban and hosting their most high profile conference in Hungary?[/quote]

??? I don't have a leader.[/quote]

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