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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Their cities are walkable, they have paid time off as part of their jobs so they can travel and stuff, and their food isn’t as processed and crammed with additives. This isn’t rocket science.[/quote]

You can walk in the US too.  Or you can exercise in other ways.  We also have plentiful foods that are not processed or have additives.  But people would rather be lazy and eat crap.  [b]This is a choice [/b][/quote]

Bingo.

Cities in the US are also walkable.

People all over the world, whether it is the US or China or India or Finland choose what they eat and choose how much they want to walk.  [b]There is nothing inherently better or worse about American culture that leads to obesity or diabetes. [/b] [/quote]

Lol, what? So why are more Americans obese then? It's just a coincidence that people here choose to eat bad things or drive places and people in Finland choose to walk?[/quote]

Well yes.  People in the US choose to drive and eat crap because they can and it is the easiest option.  As where many places in Europe, you need to walk out of necessity (harder to have/keep a car for short distances) and the processed food isn’t always the easier option or readily available to grab
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Almost like there are structural differences that encourage healthier choices in Europe and less healthy choices here[/quote]

People have free will.  [b]The only way to make Americans less fat would be to make cars and processed food unavailable.[/b]  When given the choice- they will pick the easiest and least heathy option.  People are inherently lazy and will take the easiest route.  Still individual choice and that is who to blame.  [/quote]

You know that Europe has cars and processed food too right? They just have less, bc their policies encourage walkability and the availability of good food.  I mean, if all you care about is blaming the right person, then sure, blame individuals.  If you care about making people healthier, then support policies that will push them towards better choices.[/quote]

Americans don’t even care about making their own selves healthier. You think the government can change that? Pandora’s box has been opened.  People have largely lost the ability and will to prepare their own food.  You can’t regulate that away.  Short of banning all processed foods and fast food, people will even go out of their way for it if it means they don’t have to actually cook their own food.  Especially if it is something rather boring due to time constraints or budget.  [/quote]

Anyone seen the commercial on Goldfish crackers...for adults? I just about facepalm when I saw that grownups in America would want to eat a nasty kid's food item as a snack. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break.  I know you hate America and your disdain for Americans is clear, but really?  I am an immigrant and I eat quite clean, but I love goldfish crackers!

And have you traveled much outside of the US?  I can think of dozens of examples of crazy foods that are popular with adults outside of the US that are even worse than Goldfish crackers.

But, who am so to interrupt this thread of condescension against Americans.  [/quote]

First of all, I don't hate this country. I am from a very expensive country where a tub of Fage yogurt could go for US$8. So even with the crazy inflation, my COL in the US is still low and my quality of life is high. I work out with my husband with a personal trainer for less than $200 a month. No way I could get that in my home country. There are health-conscious Americans I know, but [b]most people here don't care what goes into their bodies[/b]. Goldfish crackers included. [/quote]

Maybe you don't know many people?  Almost everyone is on some sort of diet, of one kind or another.  Almost everyone cares what goes into their bodies.  But for so many people, life gets in the way of weight loss.  [/quote]

Everyone is on some sort of a diet bc they are fat and spent all of their 20s, 30s + eating terribly.  Then they realize they are aging and overweight and try to eat heathy- but too little too late [/quote]

My 52yo neighbor once started telling me that fruit and corn were bad because they were 'high in sugar' but had no problems scarfing down crackers which were 'only 5 calories per serving'. Seeing how she is was actually one of the reasons I have continued working out as she complains about X, Y, Z health issues but doesn't do anything to improve her health and wellness. [/quote]

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