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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Man the right wing fossil fuel sphere got out there with their message fast.
Democrats and progressives are always playing catch up.
Always trying to unring a bell.[/quote]
It’s almost like that was the state government’s priority instead of telling citizens how to stay safe.

This happened ten years ago, FERC wrote a report with a ton of recommendations, mostly “winterize your power distribution capability, FFS,” and Texas did nothing. You might recall this because Dallas in particular was a total icy mess the whole week before hosting the Super Bowl for the first time. Here’s the report; of course Texas was not required to follow the recommendations because its power grid is not regulated by the federal government. https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/08-16-11-report.pdf[/quote]

My husband worked on that report.  Last night he kept telling me that TX knew.[/quote]

Of course they knew.  They actively chose this scenario.  They prefferred cheaper short term electricity over long term reliability amd resiliency.[/quote]
So basically the GOP builds infrastructure like China builds buildings. Does anyone remember that school that collapsed in China that was practically built with paper clips in place of rebar and sawdust in the cement? This is that. An avoidable tragedy in support of the party’s ideals.[/quote]

Prelim data suggests this was a 4 standard deviation event. Not many systems in the world built to withstand those types of events. [/quote]

It happened ten years ago and the lack of winterization was specifically pointed to as the cause by both federal and state investigators.  This was forseen and the problems known ahead of time.[/quote]

El Paso is operating fine because they spent the last decade winterizing equipment to -10F. It cost a lot of money, but it paid off.

They are also separate from the ERCOT and share power with Mexico and New Mexico, but that didn't seem to play a big role. What mattered was the resiliency of their physical equipment.

https://kvia.com/news/el-paso/2021/02/15/el-pasos-not-seeing-power-outages-like-the-rest-of-texas-and-heres-why/ [/quote]

El Paso and its system is not currently experiencing a 4 standard deviation event. The comparison is off base. An earthquake or hurricane *could* hit Minnesota next week, but body has insurance for it up there and they certainly aren’t built to withstand it.  Obviously this is a slight exaggeration to what Is happening in Texas, but you get the point. [/quote]

They're part of the Western Grid instead of the Texas Grid.  Isn't it strange how the areas of Texas that have redundancy through the national grid systems are still working?[/quote]

Not really. Montreal to DC is about the same distance as El Paso to San Antonio. Montreal is about 150 miles closer to DC than El Paso is to Houston. El Paso to Dallas is about the same distance as DC to Bangor, Maine.  El Paso has a different set of rules because it is basically a different part of the country that is experiencing different conditions and operating parameters. The SPP has also experienced rolling blackouts and even if the population regions in Texas were interconnected they’d probably still be having rolling blackouts. [/quote]
Are you the PP that pointed out how close El Paso is to San Diego as well? That’s irrelevant. What’s relevant is that it weatherized its systems and it’s connected to the Western Grid.[/quote]

+100

It's almost like there's two conversations going on here.  One talking about the reasons for the failure in most of Texas while some other parts of Texas are fine and the other conversation about distances.  I'm sorry but just because El Paso is far away from San Antonio (FYI I drove that distance - it took 12hrs, I'm well aware of the distance) doesn't negate the reasons for weatherization and being connected to other grids.  Texas could be connected to both the Western and Eastern grids if they wanted redundancy.  They chose to separate them selves so they wouldn't have "interstate commerce" and couldn't be regulated by the Federal government.  It was literally a choice that they made.  They could change that going forward and in fact, they should.[/quote]

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