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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Might as well also submit a truth that really shouldn't be all that surprising (but it seems some of you would nevertheless be surprised by it):  almost any "acclaimed" school, anywhere, is only acclaimed because a plurality of the students there would excel academically almost anywhere they went.  The key to acclaim is attracting (or collecting) the best students.

Low-achieving schools are low-achieving because a plurality of the students there are low-achieving, and they would achieve similarly lowly almost anywhere they went.

Teachers really have very little to do with it.

The test for a really well-organized, professionally-talented school is whether it can take a plurality of low-achieving students and make them good or better after a few years.  Neither Walls nor Wilson, imo, meets that test.[/quote]

Oh my goodness, please don’t say that.  Okay, I know everyone’s entitled to their opinion.  And what you say may be true to an extent.  But I think this really leads to complacency, and devalues the teaching profession...

....and I’ve got to say:  this year, my DC attends one of these schools, and I see at least a couple of the teachers doing that on a daily basis.  And I think a couple of the other teachers will at least making some headway.  So it is possible.

(Yes, I know anecdote isn’t data, and you used the word plurality, etc etc etc etc.  But it’s an amazingly beautiful thing to see when it happens.)[/quote]

I think the best teachers are motivated by lifting up individual students, exactly like that.  And these teachers deserve all of our praise for managing what are often very challenging classrooms as a whole.  [/quote]

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