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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, for whatever reason they used the age normed, not the grade normed, which disadvantaged somewhat the kids with fall birthdays (and the red-shirted kids), and advantaged the younger kids in the grade.  Since it's an achievement test and not an IQ test, I think it was wildly inappropriate to use the age norms and not the grade norms, as you would not normally think a 5th grader should be compared to a 6th grader in achievement (unless you were prepping that kid outside of school).  
I don't care that much, as I didn't want my kid to go to one of those schools, but I just think it's an example of MCPS being sort of irrational about much of this.[/quote]

You seem to have a very profound opinion for someone that doesn't care that much.  And especially for someone who doesn't even want their kid to go to [i]one of those schools[/i].[/quote]

I’m interested in it as an exercise in applied mathematics and education policy.  My kid is at a CES but I wanted kid closer to home for middle school years.  And my point wasn’t that it was unfair to red-shirted kids, but rather potentially unfair to kids with September/October birthdays (who were following the rules to start K when they were almost 6).  I’d be interested to see the data to see how it really skews...I do wonder how the age norming worked for those kids whose parents sent them early (starting K at 4) as it does not seem like the dataset would be large enough for them.  I also wonder about the wisdom of giving parents an incentive to start their kids early...but maybe this is not a big enough incentive for that.[/quote]

Age norming makes the most sense and is fair. Your 5th grader is compared with other 5th graders with the same birth month. They aren't being compared to 6th graders since they don't take the 5th grade CogAT.[/quote]

This is NOT true. Read the FAQ. Your kid is compared against other kids their age nationally, regardless of grade or what month they took the test. Then the national AGE BASED results for all MCPS 5th graders are ranked. So yes, your kids score factors in both age and grade and, in the national level, includes comparisons with kids who may have been in a different grade when they took the test.[/quote]

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