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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think she cheated and not because of the score increase. That happens pretty frequently. I think that her test is EXACTLY like another test (probably from the internet) The one she copied and the computer caught it. There are many ways this can be done ( and doing it is not that hard) But most people don’t get caught. She did. [b]She is also acting guilty[/b] by not retaking the test, or simply taking tha ACT instead. I suspect the evidence rather strong. [/quote] +1 . Between the $100k Gofundme campaign (which is going great BTW), hiring the civil rights lawyer and the ensuing media blitz she certainly is doing everything she can to look guilty and somewhat idiotic. If she were truly concerned with getting into college she would retake the test and get on with her life. [/quote] Of course there is always the CRAZY possibility that she is innocent and fighting for what she thinks is right, and maybe she is "truly concerned" about that. Not everyone likes to bend over the sink when power is abused. If you enjoy that go ahead. She's exercising her rights and she'll live with the results of her choices.[/quote] Yes of courss, it's always an "abuse of power" when perpetrators are caught. And try to communicate without using vulgar analogies, if at all possible. [/quote] I am not saying she's innocent -- I am saying I don't know and neither do you, since neither of us have seen any evidence -- and in fact we don't even know what the evidence is. I am open minded to the possibility and not judging, and in favor of people who use due process in support of their rights. Why are you against that? I know of many stories -- some repeated in this thread -- where kids were accused of cheating and retook the test to prove they didn't. Should they have been forced to do that?[/quote] Of course i"m all for due process and you're correct, I have no idea if she is innocent or guilty. My comment was directed at her behavior since she was accused and it certainly isn't consistent with somebody that is out to clear their name and prove their innocence. A serious student would immediately do what you've suggested and re-take the test....a comparable score would only support her claims. She can always pursue legal recourse at a later date but with the time pressure to get applications in I wouldn't see that as the immediate priority.[/quote] I agree with this. I think it is fine for her to seek legal counsel, however, she should also take steps to demonstrate that the score was legit. Why would she shy away from that. That behavior alone is suspicious. In the case mentioned earlier with the suit against ACT (score went from 21-26) at least the student retook the test and got a 23, and therefore the 26 was allowed. All that girl has to do is take another test. I think she is guilty and that is why she is not retaking.[/quote] So what you're saying is "I agree with this except I don't". Can't have it both ways man. Let the process play out. If they truly have evidence, it will come out and she will pay the price. [b]I will point out that taking the test again is the easy way out if she is GUILTY of cheating.[/b][/quote] The bold makes absolutely no sense at all. Retaking the test is the easy way to make face and prove she knows the material at that level. Why go through all the stress of hiring an attorney and grand standing the issue, when all she has to do is take a test and be done. Obviously, she knows she cannot come close to that score again...otherwise, she would retest.[/quote] I'll explain since you claim to fail to understand. Lets assume someone DOES cheat and is caught Do you think it is easier to 1) Study hard, retest and essentially wipe away your cheating (especially when you only need to make up less than 50% of the difference in scores) or 2) Retain a lawyer, pay big money for that, and expose your cheating for the world so you are never admitted anywhere? Seriously, you understand that. Don't try and claim you don't.[/quote] Some village is obviously missing it's idiot. Find your way home please.[/quote]
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