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Different poster here. I don't care what non-religious people do. What I find annoying -- not offensive, but annoying -- is people who keep claiming that Christmas is secular and therefore Jews should celebrate it as a secular or American holiday. If Christmas can be whatever it means, then I wish those posters (who may not be you) would understand that to most Jews, at least any who were raised with any religious or traditional fervor, Christmas means Christ. Even if the actual celebration for many people means Santa. Because Christmas means Christ, and Jews don't do Christ, Jews don't do Christmas. It's pretty simple. [/quote]

Well that will be news to all the people insisting that Jews do Christ.

Which, as far as I can tell, is exactly zero people.

Not sure what the problem is, still.[/quote]

There is an entire industry of people trying to get Jews to 'do' Christ. [/quote]

Plus, the point is, to many Jews, telling us to just have a Christmas tree because it's secular is no different from telling us to celebrate Christmas or celebrate Christ. For some reason this is seems very hard for non-Jews to understand. It is very obvious to me and the other Jewish posters on here, however. So thanks to the PP above for the flip answer. "The problem" is exactly this -- we don't want to celebrate Christmas, and claiming that Christmas traditions are not really Christian, but pagan, doesn't change that. Also, turning a Christmas tree into a Hanukkah tree fools no one. [/quote]

No one on this thread was telling Jews to have a Christmas tree.  A Jewish person wants a Christmas tree and other Jews objected saying Christmas trees are about Jesus.  Christians and others chimed in and said, based on their experience, it's transitioned into something more about Santa and gifts, not about Jesus.  I'm willing to bet no non-Jew on this thread is telling Jews to have a Christmas tree.  The only Christian that seemed to care if Jews had a Christmas tree was the "cultural appropriation" one who found Jews having Christmas trees offensive.  [/quote]

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