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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP.  Here are two recent scenarios that I consider somewhat gray ...

1. Andy Dick.  He's a C-level, has-been comedian.  He was fired for lewd and inappropriate behavior, namely groping, licking people on set, and hitting on people.  I'm guessing he really got fired because he's a PITA and a bad actor, but let's focus on the claims against him.  He denies the groping, admits licking a face, and admits he propositioned people.  "I didn't grope anybody. I might have kissed somebody on the cheek to say goodbye and then licked them. That's my thing — I licked Carrie Fisher at a roast. It's me being funny. I'm not trying to sexually harass people," he said.  "I didn't grab anybody's genitals," he continued, but he did not deny that he propositioned others. "Of course I'm going to proposition people. I'm single, depressed, lonely and trying to get a date. They can just say no, and they probably did and then I was done."  https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/andy-dick-fired-movie-sexual-harassment-claims-1053162

Inappropriate, or not?

2. Garrison Keillor.  Over-the-hill comedian & host.  Career was on the downswing anyway.  “I put my hand on a woman’s bare back. I meant to pat her back after she told me about her unhappiness and her shirt was open and my hand went up it about six inches. She recoiled,” Keillor told The Minneapolis Star Tribune in an email.  “I sent her an email of apology later and she replied that she had forgiven me and not to think about it. We were friends. We continued to be friendly right up until her lawyer called,” he added.  Who knows if he's telling the truth or not, but if this is really all that happened, but let's accept his explanation at face value for now.  http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362389-garrison-keillor-on-firing-i-put-my-hand-on-a-womans-bare-back

Inappropriate or not?[/quote]

Andy Dick is the worst example of a "gray area" ever! The guy is living personal boundary violation machine.[/quote]

Of course his whole schtick is based on violating boundaries.  As Dick himself said: [i]"My middle name is ‘misconduct.’ They know what they signed up for."' [/i]  But if what he really did was proposition 4 people on set, and didn't grope anyone, is that inappropriate or not?[/quote]

I mean I don't know what you're into but yes, someone licking me at work would be innapropriate. Without question. I don't like to have my face or arms or whatever licked by a stranger or a friend and shouldn't encounter the possibility in a professional environment.[/quote]

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