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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]YY has emerged with a study body that's not even 10% FARMs.[/b] There are several schools in Upper NW (Eaton, Stoddert, Hearst) with higher percentages of poor minority kids.

In 2017, comparisons between YY and government schools in affluent swathes of Western Europe, along with Singapore, are on the mark.

It's time to get more serious about immersion language studies in DC public, or the DCI IB Diploma program will emerge as just another Banneker or Eastern, programs barely scraping by with average pass point totals in the 20s. IB World Schools fed by partial immersion MS programs can't do the Diploma right without offering Higher Level language studies (which emphasize speaking skills).[/quote]

I'm the PP who mentioned this comparison being apples and oranges.  I didn't actually realize that the FARMS % was so low at YY.  [b]However, I'd submit that there are still likely SES differences between YY's students (e.g., working-class families a generation out of poverty, but who still have trouble making ends meet, providing enrichment and language support, etc.) and those in the other locations mentioned.  [/b]I'm sure many families may not be very far above the FARMS cutoff, and therefore that data point shouldn't be the only factor to consider when determining what should be reasonable goals with YY's students.[/quote]

The tracked number now is percentage of 'at-risk' students (not FARMS, because so many schools are now community eligibility schools where all get free lunch). At-risk is defined as students whose families receive nutrition assistance or TANF, or are homeless.

Here are the percentages of at-risk students in SY 2016-17 or a few schools that have been mentioned in this thread or that also have low percentages of at-risk students. The only charter with a lower at-risk percentage than YY last year is Washington Latin middle school.

YY - 4%
MV - 9%
LAMB - 10%
Stokes - 12%
DC Bilingual - 37%

Janney, Mann - can't calculate because fewer than 10 students

Washington Latin Middle School - 3%
DCI - 18%
Basis - 8%

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PP here.  Right, but that doesn't address the bolded re: SES differences.  The suggestions put forth in this thread--mandatory aftercare in Chinese, more supplementation out of school, etc.--may still be out of reach for many families.  Just because YY has a low % of FARMS and at-risk (very specific designation--students who are in foster care or homeless, who are receiving welfare benefits or food stamps, etc. ) doesn't mean all other families are affluent.[/quote]

With their gold-plated aftercare, YY manages to attract few working poor families either. [/quote]

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