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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]No, you're just the one going around claiming that you know the committee members, but you don't want to share your knowledge and we should trust you in your "faith" in these committee members. But you are an anonymous poster and think you don't have to share your knowledge. We have one person asking for information and saying they have not been able to find it. The other person says, "well, it's not my job to find it. Go find it yourself because I know it's there." Other person says, "I can't find it. Please help." Other person says, "It's not for me to find. It's just for me to tell you it's there." Finally second person says, "Well the committee members are great and have all the experience they need to have." Second person says, "No, this is not the experience that would help to make the committee work well." Now that is a truly debatable point. That is a valid argument. Were the committee members in positions where they could truly understand the children for whom the standards were being written? This can be argued. Another argument that I see is valid is the one about the vetting. One thing that is concerning is the lack of publishing of certain opinions---which have now come to light. That is a problem that needs to be addressed, but has not. The CC website is a promotional website so it is really not a good source. I am not either PP. [/quote] Thank you for that post. That is exactly the problem: we do not have the information about how the standards were written. We do not have the information even about the bios of the committee members. There really are not any bios--just the current job. This leaves finding the information to internet surfing. It would have been a good thing if the CC website had given us more information about the people writing the standards--and how the standards were developed and vetted--other than that they were. An example given by the poster about the teacher with thirty years experience is a challenge. The bio just lists her as an "educational consultant". CC supporter found that she had thirty years experience. Further research by anti-common core poster confirms that. However, the experience teaching was in a "selective admissions" public high school-- a TJ type school. That is not insignificant experience--however, it does beg the question of her understanding of elementary students--particularly those in the early grades. It also begs the question of her understanding of the challenges of the average high school student and their teachers. "Experts" do not necessarily have actual classroom experience. That is disturbing when there are more of them than there are people with hands on classroom experience. Particularly disturbing to me is the lack of people with experience in the early grades. After all, that is where all of this starts.[/quote] That wasn't the only teacher there. Again, there were several more who had plenty of classroom experience, likely at least as much as any critic. But in the overzealous drive to try and nitpick and trash, the critics for example saw "Achieve" on the one and chose to ignore that the person working for Achieve had in fact been a classroom teacher. Or, they saw that another classroom teacher had published several works, some of which were published by a company with a connection to Pearson and then tried to ignore that person's experience as well. Just because you are desperate to try and paint a picture of "conflict of interest" in some contorted attempt to bash and discredit does not make that person's experience and expertise somehow magically go away no matter how much you want it to seem that way.[/quote]
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