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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]i hear Saratoga Mom is showing up to Irving tonight to give Reid an earful about rezoning some of HVES to Saratoga/Key/Lewis[/quote]

Well if she was there she didn’t ask a question. It was mostly pissed off White Oaks parents and Sangster parents who really dislike LBSS. One said LBSS middle schoolers get accosted on buses by HS students and are sexually harassed. It was wild. [/quote]

It was not wild at all    It was parents from many different schools voicing concerns for their children’s future.  All done respectfully and with very good questions.  I hope Reid heard the concerns - especially the questions about data and projected numbers and will take it to heart.   I honestly felt more heard in that meeting than I have with SA and other members in previous conversations.   But maybe Reid is just a better politician and better at making people feel like their comments are making an impact. [/quote]

The wild reference wasn’t the whole night, that poster was referring to the negative comments about Lake Braddock….with the Lake Braddock principal there. That part was indeed wild and also awkward. [/quote]

I’m the PP and yes, that’s what I meant. Sangster parents apparently believe LBSS is a crime-ridden dump where predatory seniors hit on 12 year old girls on the bus and in the halls and kids get hung on lockers and bullied. Sangster parents made it clear last night LBSS is really terrible. I guess it’s reputation as a good school is false.

My big take away is that Sangster and White Oak changes to close those split feeders and the attendance island will get reversed now. They’ll focus on areas that haven’t complained like Daventry and West Soringfield and reopen the changes they reversed from Scenario 3. Someone has to move and now it’s clear Sangster kids avoiding LBSS is the priority because the school is terrible and it’s 2 miles further away than WSHS. Most likely it means hundreds of kids will get moved to Lewis and South County.

West Soringfield neighborhoods are going to go to war with each other. I hope Racha and Sandy are pleased at what they’ve accomplished.

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It wasn’t that dramatic I would say. A couple of people did mention that they have strong feelings about secondary schools in general. I think most people agree that LB is a great school. No one else said anything bad about it.[/quote]

I spent 2+ hours listening to people complain about having to move to LBSS because it’s not part of their community (even though the rest of Sangster goes there) and how far away it is and how people want their babies to be babies and not surrounded by upper classmen. It sounds terrible. I’ve only been there for games and it looked okay to me but it sounds really bad with a lot of bullying and abuse towards 7th and 8th graders. [/quote]

Honestly, that was one comment made by one parent and the entire rest of room thought it was cringe.   The rest of the comments were thoughtful and reasonable. I was impressed by how White Oaks, Sangster, and HV parents all spoke with decorum.  I also appreciated Dr. Reid staying far past ending time to finish questions.  Tonight made me proud for the whole West Springfield community. [/quote]

I wasn't bothered by that comment and my kid goes to LB. There are also LB kids who don't want to go to Irving because of Irving's reputation. All schools have good and bad. It's valid for someone not to want their 7th grader on the bus with 12th graders even if it's not everyone's priority.[/quote]

I also thought Reid's response should have been thanks for your feedback and not basically gaslighting the commenter by trying to emotionally appeal to people and protect the principal's feelings. The principal doesn't know everything that goes on and Reid especially doesn't.[/quote]

Irving kids are sexually active, experimenting with drugs and vapes, bullying kids, running amuk at the shopping center, and watching porn and violence on their phones too,  just like the LBSS kids.

Hoing to a middle school vs a secondary school does not mean that the secondary kids have access to smart phones via the high school kids and the midfle school kids are tech free.

The high school boys at the secondary schools are NOT hitying on the 12 year old girls on the busses.  These boys have grown up in the me too era with lots of training on how not to make girls uncomfortable.  They are barely hitting in their high school classmates and wouldn't touch middle school girls with a 20 foot pole.  Heck, they will rarely date girls 2 or 2 grades younger than them.  This is not your 80s teen boys.

That parent's comments sounded as if tgey were a parent of very young children who did not have much experience with teenagers and middle school kids.  It was well intended, but based on stereotypes a kindergarten parent would have about teenagers.[/quote]

You're complaining about stereotypes when your last 2 paragraphs are full of them.

I didn't say Irving doesn't have issues. My child knows students there who have mentioned concerning issues. Same as LBSS. However, it's a fact that if you're riding a bus with only 7th and 8th graders you can't get hit on or bullied by high schoolers. That mom is allowed to want to protect her kid from that.

My LBSS MS student hangs out with high schoolers from their bus after school. In fact they don't walk around with any middle schoolers. Their 7th and 8th grade friends are on different buses and don't know high schoolers personally. The high schoolers comment on my kid's maturity compared to other middle schoolers. That's both a good and bad thing and not everyone's cup of tea. It doesn't mean you can pretend it away.[/quote]

These aren't my stereotypes.

I am just restating that parent's stereotypes about issues she said are solely Lake Braddock issues due to the Lake Braddock high school kids.

Every school containing teenagers contains these issues, including Irving.

Lake Braddock is not some cesspool of teenage debauchery that is caused by the unique corrupting influence of the Lake Braddock high school students.

Where there are teenagers, there are kids with  bad behavior who make bad choices..[/quote]

I'm talking about this: "The high school boys at the secondary schools are NOT hitying on the 12 year old girls on the busses. These boys have grown up in the me too era with lots of training on how not to make girls uncomfortable. They are barely hitting in their high school classmates and wouldn't touch middle school girls with a 20 foot pole."

Generalization at best. A given parent isn't worried about what happens statistically. She doesn't want the possibility her kid can be hit on by a high schooler on the bus. Your generalizations doesn't protect her kid from that. Having a bus with only 7th and 8th graders does.[/quote]

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