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I suspect he's so brutal in Ukraine because he's trying to provoke NATO and its allies into further action, such as defending air space over Ukraine. The worse this gets, the harder it becomes ethically not to get involved. His deliberate and brutal targeting of civilians is designed to provoke us further into what looks a lot like the beginning of a world war.[/quote]

I don't think that was his original intention - he really thought Ukrainians would welcome him, and the government would present much weaker opposition. But ultimately you're correct: there are reports of mass casualities, and as they increase, it will get harder and harder to avoid military intervention from NATO. I hope we can avoid it, because that is WWIII guaranteed.

What must happen, I hope, is that [b]the West makes the sacrifice to stop buying oil and gas from Russia. It is literally what's propping up the Putin regime. No other client can make up for NATO countries, which are Russia's biggest clients by far. [/b] For some European countries, it will be a HUGE sacrifice - their populations will have difficulty heating their homes next winter, let alone using their cars. Agriculture will be particularly hard hit. Luckily, we are moving into Spring right now, so the psychological timing for popular opinion may be just lukewarm enough that governments in Germany and other places heavily dependent on Russian energy may be pressured into it, if images of genocide are emotional enough.

And that would be stop the war in its tracks. Russia cannot survive without its sales of energy.

So what we must advocate for, all of us, is a system of energy support for countries who need it the most (Germany, etc) in this time of crisis. We need to share resources. We need to make concessions to OPEC countries to strike some kind of deal. Pain at the pump will be significant, but that is the price of toppling the Russian regime which has been oppressing its citizens for decades, and murdering its neighbors and others civilians in war zones around the world.

Please call your senators and congresspeople.

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+ 100 Billion 
 Yes, yes, yes!!
The West seems to think they can impose sanctions on Russia without feeling any pain themselves!!
It's crazy and completely politically calculated.
Yes, all the pols will get voted out when inflation goes crazy after gas and oil prices go crazy after completely cutting off Russian sales of gas and oil
BUT, there is oil in the middle east, and Biden has to ask for it to fulfill Europe's need for the moment.
Also, ALL companies in the west must cease doing business with Russia immediately, like TODAY!
How many more Ukrainians are going to be slaughtered? Must we let all those Ukrainian kids with cancer die because we don't want to pay more for gas?  Where is the compassion of the West? 
Because we can't pay more at the pump or keep our houses colder, or just drive less, or take public transport, all these Ukrainians have to DIE???
Where is the compassion of the West?
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Please stop your stupid "we need to pay more" agenda, you commie sock-puppet. [/quote]

The PP above you was responding to my post, and we are not the same person. Also, weird insult.

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