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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia's disaster of an invasion has the opposite effect I think - it makes it much harder for China to invade Taiwan.  Look at the vehemently negative world reaction towards Russia that is going to obliterate their economy.  It has sped up Germany's diversification away from Russian energy up to 2035 (down from 2050).  China went to great lengths during the winter Olympics this year to propagandize the opening ceremony where they tried to show that they were a peaceful country and a great world unifier.  Invading Taiwan would ruing the soft image projection Xi is trying to promulgate, and would stoke an anti-Chinese backlash across the world just like what Russia has gotten.  That's exactly the opposite of what Xi and the CCP want.  The only way they'll take over Taiwan is if they start moving in mainland Chinese and install a pro-Chinese govt to change the culture of many years, just like what they're doing to Hong Kong.  [/quote]

Russia’s invasion has not gone as planned but any military plan ends as soon as action starts. Putin planned to conquer Ukraine in 48 hours. That’s not happening. But now Putin is raining down artillery on Ukrainian cities. Sanctions won’t stop him anymore than they’ve stopped Iran and North Korea. [/quote]

Tens of thousands of ethnic Russian women and children died in Chechnya, population 1.3M people. Putin has no remorse or care about his own people. For a preview of where this goes look to the Balkans and Milosevic.[/quote]

Chechnya’s destruction appears to be his game-plan.

But this time, it’s different.

He is slaughtering civilians just a few miles from EU countries; NATO countries.

And this time, he can not control the massive numbers of western journalists witnessing it all.

[b]Another factor:  Europeans relate to the Ukrainian people.  They look and speak like the part of the EU we used to call Eastern Europe.  Europe won’t sand for this, and we have many weapons of economic destruction to deploy against Russia and Belarus.[/b]

In contrast, when the Moslem Chechens were slaughtered, the Moslem and Arab world failed to do much to stop Putin. [/quote]

I don't know if you listen to The Daily podcast, but today they talked about EU actions. Apparently Zelensky's speech to the EU really changed minds about their levels of support, dramatically. Anyway, it was a really interesting episode today. Some of their episodes in general are hit or miss, but I'd recommend this one.[/quote]

People are trying so hard to dance around the fact that Ukrainians aren’t brown/black and/or Islamic.

1 million refugees relatively moved safely in a week is unheard of before.

Let’s be clear what the parsimonious reason is why it easily happened but never before [/quote]

Yes. I am from Central Europe. Ukrainians are our neighbors; we share a similar history and culture. And yes, they look and behave like us. We are neighbors. Of course I am more ready to help and do something about the situation. Makes sense.

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Western European here. I agree. It's true that central and eastern Europeans have this reputation of being racist against Jews and people of color and non-Christians. Perhaps they have not had many opportunities to see them up up close in economically advantageous conditions (with exceptions). Western Europe has its own problems with Arabs, Muslims, Africans, Jews, etc...

Having said all this, and despite NOT BEING 100% WHITE MYSELF, I feel more kinship towards Ukrainians than to displaced and oppressed people elsewhere. Why? Because we are all European, and that counts for a lot. 
We all remember the scars of WWII, we all remember the siege of Sarajevo, we all remember the Bosnian genocide. We feel physical repulsion at the idea of another massive land war on European soil.

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This is what I’m talking about. Look PPs need to just be clear and say things with their chest. Don’t say “have this reputation” and “perhaps”.

Use honest terms. “Are” is more clear and accurate if you sub it for the above phrases.

It’s funny that Ukraine will get EU membership before Turkey for example even though Turkey is doing more than almost anyone to save Ukrainians with drones.

Why? It isn’t because of gdp/per capita (Turkey is a basketcase but richer even on that metric).

It is because of looks and Islam.

I don’t have a horse in this either way, I’m just curious why people can’t be clear and honest about these things.

What will be interesting is as the US becomes more brown and diverse, as a body politic, it’ll start to Very slowly change American foreign policy that was par for course in the post ww2 era.

I can tell you that average black and brown people (who are not in the dc space) are pretty tuned out to what’s happening in Ukraine.

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PP you replied to. Stop being annoying. We are not going to say "Europeans are racist" just to comply with your worldview. Why? Because I'm a European and I'm not racist! The Central European who is posting here is surely not racist either, if they are posting from the DC area  - they must be educated and have quite a bit of experience to have made it all the way to DC.

My Grandmother was terribly racist. We all know racist people. But it's stupid to say ALL Europeans are racist. Would you like it if we said ALL Americans are racist? It wouldn't be true, would it?

So stop it. And again, I want to emphasize here that I am of mixed ethnicity. Many people in Europe are not white. Just like here.

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