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It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled.  Let someone else have the new building.  Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more.   We are fine where we are with minor repairs.[/quote]

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong
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haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."[/quote]

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want?  Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation).  Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.[/quote]

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.[/quote]
Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and  very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving. [/quote]

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H.  Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich? [/quote]

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway [/quote]

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.[/quote]

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time.  Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening.  Is that not right?  If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?[/quote]

Holy crap.  I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS.  That is what they are freaking out about?  What the heck is wrong with those people?[/quote]

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.[/quote]

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added.  There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.[/quote]

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H.  But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so.  In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.  [/quote]

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development [/quote]

Look again at the enrollment numbers.[/quote]

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO. [/quote]

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out? 
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No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.[/quote]

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished. [/quote]

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created?   You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining. [/quote]

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents? [/quote]

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it.  Many schools have the same issues.   We all pay taxes.  [/quote]

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1. [/quote]

Correct. MCPS took Wootton off the CIP 3 times. In the meantime, it built a brand new school in a highly congested area using faulty enrollment numbers. Maybe it always thought it could break up Wootton, but didn’t expect the massive pushback it’s getting now. MCPS has painted itself into a corner here, but that’s not the fault of Wootton families, no matter how much a couple of trolls on this thread want it to be.

The Wootton families pushing for a full renovation have calmed down. There’s no material dissension among Wootton families.  Stop claiming there is. [/quote]

And, they are offering you that new school. [/quote]

So what?  It’s not an offer if it’s being forced. An offer means you are free to decline. [/quote]

You are free to decline. Send your kids to private school on your own dime.[/quote]

Aw, poor little troll got caught by his own words and said the quiet part out loud. Thanks for agreeing with Wootton families. [/quote]

Why keep that quiet? The Wootton parents have the money for private school.

Though, I strongly suspect that the loudest voices opposing H here don't even have kids in school anymore.[/quote]

umm no. We certainly do not have money for private school. Secular private school costs 40-60k a year. Again, you are thinking Wootton parents have a lot more money than they do. [/quote]

Then, you have a spending issue and you need to make changes to be able to afford it if that’s what you want.  How will you pay for college?   Where is all your money going?[/quote]

Omg! Bro, stay in your lane - not only inappropriate but incredibly off base. Do you not pay taxes? Make donations? Try to buy high quality food? You don’t know how many kids ppl have. I can’t believe I’m stopping to actually answer this but you’re out of line. Maybe they can’t do private school because they put all extra money into college funds. Maybe they are caring for a sick family member or paying to support someone else?

Jesus, man. One who makes a certain amount know the realities and one who doesn’t can make accusations like you. [/quote]

Yup, and much worse and we make it work.  Having multiple kids is a choice.  These are the same people who expect aid for college. [/quote]

Ah. Ok. So in 2012 when people were having kids and living responsibly within their means, they should have been more careful in the event that the county known in part for education upturns everything and you may have to pay for private school? [/quote]

You didn't know school boundaries could change? Really?[/quote]

Not illegally, no we didn’t. No one is above the law. [/quote]

Of course it’s legal.  [/quote]

Thanks Judge Judy. Glad to know it’s not up to you. [/quote]

MCPS doesn’t want a lawsuit because as posted earlier in this thread there are numerous legal grounds for one. [/quote]

Funny that no one has been able to provide a plausible legal argument. Some have tried to call it a school closure, despite examples of facility and boundary changes not being handled as closures, but even then they failed to identify a legal requirement that can't be met by MCPS.[/quote]

Adam Van Quack is itching to be the lawyer representing the disenfranchised Rockvillians on this meritless case. No one else will take it and Van Grack gets to look like a hero even by taking on a case that is fundamentally unwinable/not even a case.[/quote]

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