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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Radical Islamic Violence"[b] is not very realistic threat to the average American, [/b]unless they spend a lot of time abroad [b]in those areas[/b]. If you think it is an imminent threat that affects "most  Americans" [b]here on U.S soil[/b], a doctor can prescribe medication for your paranoid/schizo personality disorder. I'm fairly certain that any given American has a higher chance of hitting the jackpot for mega-millions than being involved in a terrorist attack.  I didn't crunch the numbers but the odds are pretty astronomically low.[/quote]

And that's the "never going to happen here" bloated American mentality they are banking on.

We are America, we are exempt from all the tragic events that happen in other parts of the world because we are Americans.

It's not surprising though.  America is a very young country.  Thus the teenage "superman" complex is still very much pervasive as a young country.

That plus the appalling lack of World History and geography taught to students, especially to those that are now running this country when they were in school.

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Please describe the scope of the threat that you believe we face? Do you think we face the loss of 40 million or so as Russia did under Stalin? Lower, maybe 12 million like the Nazis killed? A few hundred thousand? Given that -- unlike you believe us to be -- you are educated in World History and geography, what is the threat you believe we face?
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The threat we are discussing and that I believe we most certainly are susceptible to is radical violence based on certain groups' practice of Islam.  The scope?  I'm not fortune teller but I base my judgements on history and current events.

Muslims under the mentality of Islamic "duty" have killed millions throughout history since it's religious conception.  Other religions have too, so now what's the difference?  There have been terrorist attacks in other countries for years, even before 9/11.  We paid no attention because it did not effect us.  The terrorists were targeting 'others'.

Now they have landed on us as a target.  Historically, targeted countries have incurred terrorist attacks.

Since the discussion is about radical Islamic terror, I'm not comparing the scope to Stalin or Hitler.  I'm comparing it to other accounts of radical Islamic terror.

You are the one comparing apples to oranges.

Now you either truly in your heart believe that we will never incur another terrorist attack by believers of Islam or you think that even if there is a terrorist attack it will only effect maybe a few hundred or thousand people in this land of 3 million so essentially, not a big deal.  I mean especially if you're comparing it to Hitler or Stalin.  So therefore we should not be so worried about it, it's just a mere terrorist attack and odds are you won't be injured or killed in it.

Not everyone agrees with that line of thinking but you seem to think everyone that does not is prejudiced.

Here is a list of State Dep't recognized foreign terrorist organizations.  Look closely at which religious group comprises the majority of that list.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

Obviously we are not targets for all of those groups, but other countries have been and have also been effected by the actions of some of these groups. It would be irresponsible to not take this type of threat seriously.  Yet we are all the crazy, paranoid, prejudiced ones.

You seem to think that having this opinion makes one anti-Muslim, which I am most definitely not. Having criticisms does not make one "anti" or prejudice. Yet you point that finger and make that charge if there is a differing viewpoint.

It's simply rational thinking with the application of relevant history that is correlated with Islamic terrorism and current events.

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You are putting words in my mouth. All I did was ask you to describe the scope of the threat. As near as I can tell, you can't do that. You think there is a threat, but you can't say whether that threat is big or little. All you can say is that I accused you of being prejudiced which I don't think I did unless you are the unhinged poster.

You are correct in that I think we could be subject to a terrorist attack by radical Muslims, [b]but I believe that attack will be on a scale that is not substantial in real terms.[/b] 9-11 was anomaly, and horrendously bad, but it still had a relatively low casualty count. Consider in the Syrian Civil War, over 200,000 have been killed. Other than 9-11, America has faced a much more deadly thread from right-wing terrorism. So, [b]proper risk analysis would require more attention[/b] to right-wing violence than Islamic violence. 
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On your point that an Islamic terrorist attack on American soil would not be very substantial as far as casualty count compared to other countries, you could just as easily say that the amount of backlash that peaceful, tolerant Muslims might possibly feel in America is also not very substantial compared to the scale of backlash of the peaceful Muslims that are being terminated by ISIS.

The backlash they might feel here is minuscule to the backlash they receive in other countries.

I say this as a South Asian that gets swept into the backlash by people who fear my brown skin.  I very much dislike it.

What I would like is not sympathy from Whites, which it is the format the OP seems to be taking, I want to see a movement for Islamic Reformation which cannot happen without a recognition of the fact that ISIS and all the other Islamic terror groups practice a very valid form of Islam. [b] They didn't make it up, it's not a twisted interpretation.  It's the way Islam was practiced ever since it's founder entered Medina.  [/b]

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If it's not a twisted interpretation, please back it up and post the verses in the Qur'an that legitimize the murder of woman and children...you won't find any. And sorry, but what ISIS is doing is not what Mohammed did when he entered Medina. Of course I can see why one might believe that, if they don't research the history for themselves and rely on sources such as FOX for all their "islamic knowledge".  Was there violence in those days? Yes, because back then everyone fought in hand to hand combat in large scale armies. This was how warfare was carried out in the time, and it was not at all unique to muslims. Civilians/woman/children were not slaughtered even back then. I'm not sure the same can be said of the crusaders, they seem to be far more violent than mohammed ever was. But as a south asian you should already have some knowledge of world history?[/quote]

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