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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So University of California or University of Michigan? If so, he's at a great school.  [/quote]

And mean time a black kid with 3.6 gpa and 2050 SAT and nothing major to show for gets admitted to an Ivy League school.[/quote]

I've got no problem with that.  Both kids seem capable of doing the work.  No one's entitled to admission to an Ivy.  If the school is using its admissions process to put together a racially diverse class rather than to maximize the standardized test scores of its incoming class, that's an [b]UNCONSTITUTIONAL [/b]decision I think it should be allowed to make.

Out of curiosity, why do you single out this hypothetical black kid as the student that got the spot you believe was rightfully the Asian kid's? Are you assuming that every white kid who was admitted had credentials comparable or superior to the Asian kid's?[/quote]

Fixed that for you.

You are actually advocating for racism, based on a chosen class you've personally picked. God, I love progressives and the utter hypocrisy they can't even see rules them.[/quote]

No it's not unconstitutional.  Harvard's admissions process was cited in the Bakke case as an example of race-conscious admissions done right.  And in Grutter the Court upheld a similar approach in the context of public university making law school admissions decisions.  The central constitutional question here is whether/how/to what extent government actors can use race-conscious means to address racial inequality.  I didn't "personal" pick African Americans as victims of racism, but I can certainly see and acknowledge both the historic and contemporary ways in which being black in the U.S. affects ones' life chances in the U.S.

And you still haven't answered my question about why it's the hypothetical African American student with slightly lower SAT scores that you see as depriving an Asian American kid of a spot in an Ivy League school.  it's not as if white kids with similar scores don't get into Ivies.  But, apparently you assume there's some legit explanation there, whereas the black kid is obviously unworthy.  See, that's racism.

I don't assume the Asian kid was unworthy.  I assume he should end up at a top school.  And it sounds like he did.  If my own high-stats white kid applied only to 8 Ivies (or comparably selective schools) and one excellent public school (like Berkeley or Ann Arbor), and then only got into the public school, I wouldn't assume she is the victim of racism or sexism.  I'd assume she rolled the dice, lost, and chose her safety school wisely.  If she applied to 30 schools and got in nowhere, I'd assume that she made some serious mistakes in choosing where to apply and/or in choosing recommenders or writing essays.  So, no, My attitude isn't racist.  My attitude is that of someone who recognizes how arbitrary elite college admissions are generally.

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