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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think that the only way for AA students to succeed is to be taken out of their environment.  Because what really fails them is not the government, but their own families and community.

Their families make very bad choices like getting pregnant in high school, end up living in poverty, unable to take care of the kids, unable to educate them.  Kids grow up among neglect, abuse, bad role models and lack of education values.  And no school can fix it.[/quote]

Are you suggesting that all Black kids should be taken away from their parents?

I very much hope not, but that's what it sounds like.[/quote]

I am not the OP but there is a lot of truth in the statement. Unless, as a family and as a community those vicious cycles arent broken, there is not much schools can do. He/she is right, no school can fix this.[/quote]

Agreed. I live in neighborhood in DC where it's a daily occurrence to see a teen mom walking down the sidewalk with her child, yelling and snapping at her child, using every curse word at her disposal, and certainly not in hushed tones. No shame. No sense of the awesome responsibility she has in serving as her child's parent. Can't imagine those kids are EVER read a book before bed. How do schools fix that level of abuse and neglect? The sad cycle continues. [/quote]

Here is the thing who do you picture when you describe this anecdote?  I picture my aunt who is white, was a teen mom and a disaster as a parent. But the thing is she came from a family where here mom was a teen mom but 4 of her brothers went to college, had very successful jobs i.e. million dollar companies and two brothers are a mess drugs, prison etc.   My uncles are pretty sure that they are different because they made the right decisions and  my aunt and her kids are a disaster because she did not.  But they were out of the house when my grandparents divorced, they did not deal with other issues that happened after the divorce.  I think context and decisions all matter and sometimes people make out and others don't it will always be that way.  So the question is how to we help the next generation and in my mind it is not creating such an punitive context that kids can't escape their parents decisions.  Thus in the context that started this discussion, the question arises as to how you can give kids opportunity and desegregated schools help, those who fight that option really are part of the problem.  None of us think this solves all issues but it can matter. [/quote]

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