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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All that Satan stuff is NOT comforting. I wasn't raised to think that it is real, but pity the kids who are told there is evil out to get them.[/quote]

The problem is, Satan -- "evil" -- is real. He is living and breathing in humanity, just like the Holy Spirit is alive and well in Christians.

Just ask the people at the AME church in Charleston.[/quote]

No, Satan is a Biblical character. There is no personification of evil. You have used Satan as a metaphor, but that doesn't mean the thing exists. [/quote]

Ha! You don't get out much, read the news much or interact with people much do you?

Satan is very, very real. Yes, it's just another name for Evil, but it absolutely exists. All true Christian faiths recognize that.[/quote]

Well, you're wrong. There is no Satan. A lot of folks from a lot of other faiths (as well as all of those who claim no faith) recognize that.

You shouldn't speak with such certainty of things that you can't prove. [/quote]

We saw a dramatic picture of Satan himself on June 17 in charleston. He walked into the church and for 45 minutes sat in the presence of the Risen Lord. It was almost enough to stop him. But he was defeated again two days later when multiple people from multiple families came forward and again spoke in his face the Word of God. I have been to Emanuel AME church in subsequent days and experienced what is happening there. There is simply no other explanation. [/quote]

Nice metaphor or religious delusion and here's what really happened:   A mentally disturbed  21 year old white Lutheran high-school drop out with a gun shot a bunch of unsuspecting black people  during Bible study at their church.[/quote]

AND THEN here's what really happened: hundreds of people who knew the victims , including members of nine different families, came forward with love. Family members far more impacted by this tragedy than anyone else looked at the shooter and forgave him, in the name of god. People have literally been praying in the streets of charleston ever since. Had I not seen this for myself I wouldn't have believed it either. There is simply no other explanation [/quote]

And then what really happened is that two family members of victims forgave the shooter on national TV.  After that,  other families members and friends and others without a direct connection to the families came forth to offer their condolences and support.  This happens frequently when people die, it's just not as well known because death is usually a much more private affair.[/quote]

Totally incorrect. I'd bet my every last one of my considerable amount of dollars that you have not been in Charleston this week, standing in front of the AME church. I have. I can tell you what I've seen, over and over again. And it has changed my life, forever.[/quote]

Nice that it's changed your life, seriously -- especially if it's changed your life for the better.  But here's another change I hope comes over you -- that you won't expect that everyone will or should react the same way to you do and you won't respond "Totally incorrect" to someone else's perspective.[/quote]

What I pointed out as "totally incorrect" was not perspective. It was someone else pointing out statements that s/he claimed to be fact. (two family members of victims, etc.) That is totally and completely false and wrong. I have been here, am seeing what is happening (still) and know more about it than this poster. I am simply correcting the record.[/quote]

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