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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But someone please answer this question: if you get up to heaven and find out that your spouse/father/mother/son/daughter/best friend/favorite aunt/brother/sister or whoever it is you love the most did not make it -- can you honestly say you'd be happy in eternity knowing that loved one is tormented in hell?

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I believe you may have profound understanding and acceptance that no one ends up away from God lightly, and that they consciously created such a situation. I don't know how sadness or pity would manifest itself in an eternal state.
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I see some waffling there, and an admission of not knowing.  Are you saying that once you get to heaven, you'll understand and accept why God rejected the loved ones you were counting on spending eternity with? and won't mind that they are burning in hell forever?[/quote]

Yes, and that seems like that contradicts what's supposed to be the essence of comforting thoughts about death -- that some day you will be reunited with your loved ones, that they're not really gone, etc.   If it turns out you won't be reunited, where's the solace?  And why would sadness or pity not be manifest in eternity -- when there are so many instances of God expressing emotions in biblical scripture - anger, sadness, sorrow, pity, being pleased with his creation.

If God gets to be sad about the death of his son, why wouldn't a mother get to be sad in heaven if her son or husband isn't allowed to join her there?  Heaven is supposed to be a state of perfection, but I have a hard time imaging it to be perfect if loved ones are separated for all eternity.

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Yeah, I'm the poster you quoted and I don't know how it will manifest itself. But I don't think my loving someone and the happiness I derive from that relationship overrides that person's choice to ultimately separate from God. Meaning someone wants nothing to do with heaven/God and my feelings for them force them out of their chosen state to be with me. I wonder if a proclaimed atheist would even want that.[/quote]

So God knows best, which extends to how his people will be happy in heaven, even if it doesn't turn out the way you expected and you learn that  half your loved ones are suffering for eternity -- God's will extends into heaven.  I suppose this means God could change the rules any time about heaven. For instance, after a couple more eons, he could shut the whole thing down and send all the souls there into oblivion -- or maybe even to hell, if they don't live up to his expectations.

As for proclaimed atheists -- they don't think there will be a heaven or hell.  They think life is what it seems to be -- temporary.[/quote]

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