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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are you really comparing polygamy with wearing certa in type of dress? Wow. And, does Italy have legislation banning the burka explicitly? One can debate the security issue, but the French law was aimed at wearing the burka under the grounds of "going against our values. Does Italy have laws banning certain types of dress because it violates its values? [/quote] I think that's an apt comparison. We outlaw polygamy in the US for safety (the girls are frequently very young and indoctrinated), rather than because of complications in tax and estate law. Arguably, it is fundamental to religion, it still is in FLDS. The mainstream LDS church has disavowed it. Sounds similar to a burka.[/quote] Many women choosing to wear a burka are French citizens -- and many are grown-up former non-Muslim who choose to convert to Islam. A ban is not for "their" safety. And that wasnt the reason the Italian PP brought it up.[/quote] France estimated that 2000 women who wear the burqa would be affected. The critical issue here is how to separate the willing burqa-wearers from the women who are forced to wear the burqa. I don't think anybody has a good way to distinguish between the two groups, or even knows what their relative numbers are. France erred on the side of protecting those who are forced to wear it. I am really on the fence about whether that's the right solution, and I see valid points on both sides being made here. P.S. Even if all of 200 of these burqa-wearing women are western converts (which they're not), this is not exactly a huge number of converts. [/quote] I am aware that burka-wearing women are a tiny fraction of the population -- "many" doesn't mean "thousands." But if someone is forced to wear it (by, say, her husband), what do you think will happen with a ban? In all likelihood, their husbands will further restrict their ability to be in public. How is that "protecting them"? The fact that it's a tiny number of women wearing it, and the fact that the French public spent months and months discussing it as a big deal -- with most people agreeing with a ban from the beginning -- reaffirms that this kind of law can be interpreted as an opportunity to express, willingly or not, rejection to "otherness." [/quote]
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