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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think "eye rolling" might be a bit melodramatic, but I've met several people who were interested in applying to Yale and not Harvard. For one thing, more of Yale's graduate programs (chemistry, molecular biology, math, business, economics, etc.) are top tier, as in top 10 or top 20, but not #1-5 in the field compared to Harvard.  There are also less than half the number of total graduate students at Yale compared to Harvard--there are 6,000 grad students at Yale, compared to 14,000 at Harvard.  This means to some that there appears to be more focus on undergraduate education at Yale, while still providing access to a top notch research university.  Since a lot of the time, the more hot shot the professor, the less interaction they have with undergrads, having fewer completely powerhouse graduate programs is not necessarily a bad thing for one's undergraduate institution.

There are other aspects like the intangible fit of the campus for the individual student.  But I can totally see why one might prefer the overall vibe of undergrad at Yale vs. Harvard.[/quote]

I agree with your analysis of the schools, but that leaves out the fact that New Haven is a pit and unfortunately Yale is surrounded by a cesspool of violent crime.[/quote]

You realize that's how most people outside of this area describe DC as well?  :)  Cambridge is nicer for sure (and many will pick Princeton over Yale for the idyllic surroundings), but New Haven looks pretty good these days and the student safety statistics are excellent.  If you've spent time on the Yale campus, the residential areas are inside nice quadrangles with Oxford-y looking lawns and gates that are key access and thus secure.  [/quote]

+1 We visited Yale this summer. I was expecting New Haven to be a dump, but the area around Yale is as great. Maybe is you were from Oklahoma you would feel threatened by other areas of New Haven. As DC residents, we didn't. [/quote]

I know that you do not mean a slight PP, but I always cringe when I hear someone from this area make a condescending or disparaging remark about the other parts of the country as being backwards, unsophisticated, unintelligent, or somehow inferior.  Why would you remark that someone from Oklahoma would have less adaptability, or common knowledge and experience, and thus "feel threatened by other areas of New Haven.", as compared to "DC residents"?  Also, why would you "expect" New Haven to be a dump?

If this reflects the way DC area residents feel about the people and towns in the rest of the country, then I certainly hope the colleges admit only a small fraction of this entitled lot.[/quote]

I took it to read that DC residents were more inured to violent behavior and street thuggishness.   Even in Upper NW, the number of muggings is up significantly this year (perhaps as part of the Barry nostalgia rolling through DC lately).  So if one takes DC crime in stride, maybe New Haven is not so bad.  Like Southeast, but with better pizza.[/quote]

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