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1) You FIRST said it was from the Quran. Now you admit it's not from the Quran but rather from Sahi Muslim 4206. Hadith were the sayings of the prophet as remembered by people. Hadith were collected over 200 yrs after the death of prophet Muhammad. Some are authentic and are valuable in providing context for  Quranic principles, but some may be completely false. For example, Sahih Muslim also has numerous wacky hadith about the Prophet's sweat being so precious that his mother saved it in a bottle, about his body smelling fragrant and other complete nonsense like that. Yet you still chose this hadith as an authoritative source to make your point. Why? 
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Do you understand the meaning of the word "Sahi" in Arabic?

If you want to take a position that ahadith aren't a reliable source, that's your right. Just don't get up and say that you value the weight of scholarly consensus.  Because the weight of Islamic scholarly consensus on the subject of ahadith is best conveyed in the word they chose to call it: Sahi. [/quote]

Hon, you need to sit down, because you misrepresent Islam. Books written hundreds of years after prophets died are not fool proof. Are you saying they are? This is why your self education of Islam as a christian crusader is incomplete. You need to go to Saudi Arabia and speak to members of the World Fiqh Council. Have you done that? I have. One member told me all hadith are not 100% reliable. [b]The only text that contains authentic hadith is still in Arabic and has yet to be translated and distributed to the world.[/b] This is why you have to be extremely careful in quoting hadith, because the publications today may include unreliable ones too. [/quote]
Why is it not translated it? Did they just not get around to it?

If you don't want me to quote your hadith, tell you people to stop publishing them and calling them Sahi.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of them are reliable. But then I don't think that what you post is reliable either. [/quote]

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