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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sahi Muslim No. 4206: “A[b] woman came to the prophet [/b]and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait unt[b]il she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, [b]Muhammad [/b]handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and [/b]she was put in a hole up to her breast, [b]he ordered the people to stone her[/b]. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.” [/quote] Okay we need to break this down because what you're doing is a bit deceptive: 1) You FIRST said it was from the Quran. Now you admit it's not from the Quran but rather from Sahi Muslim 4206. Hadith were the sayings of the prophet as remembered by people. Hadith were collected over 200 yrs after the death of prophet Muhammad. Some are authentic and are valuable in providing context for Quranic principles, but some may be completely false. For example, Sahih Muslim also has numerous wacky hadith about the Prophet's sweat being so precious that his mother saved it in a bottle, about his body smelling fragrant and other complete nonsense like that. Yet you still chose this hadith as an authoritative source to make your point. Why? 2) The Quran is the true word of God and has greater authority than any hadith. Yet the Quran NEVER sanctions stoning adulterers or fornicators to death. The punishment as described in the Quran for adultery is flogging, as evidenced in Sura 24, verse 2. 3) Check out www.gotquestions.org, a Christian evangelical web site that provides the FULL story behind Jesus' "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" comment. You deceptively provided the abbreviated version of this story. Here's the full story of where Jesus' statement came from: Jesus' statement is found in John 8:1-11. Jesus was teaching in the temple when the scribes and Pharisees brought to him a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery, and they asked him if she should be stoned as required by the Law of Moses. However, they cared nothing about this woman, they were only interested in using her to trap Jesus. If he told them to stone her, they could claim he was not the Savior. If he told them to set the woman free, they could claim he did not hold to the Law of Moses. If he said nothing, they could claim he lacked wisdom. Jesus did not answer immediately. Finally he said, in essence, "Go ahead and stone her because that is what the law requires. But the Law also requires that the first stone be thrown by a person that is sinless in connection to this charge." It was true that the law required that the guilty man be stoned as well (Deuteronomy 22:22). But it also required that witnesses be produced and that a witness also begin the execution. The scribes and Pharisees did not produce the guilty man and could not produce the required witnesses. So Jesus set the woman free with a warning to sin no more. So basically, the requirement for a witness without sin to actually begin the execution was a law that was already in place. Jesus did not invent this. But unaware Christians have exploited this story to make it appear as if it was Jesus who preached this philosophy first and to show how compassionate and forgiving he was. This is not to say Jesus was not a compassionate and forgiving man, but this story has been woefully exploited. And the adulteress was not executed because none of the requirements were met to accuse her in the first place. There were neither witnesses nor any man that was brought forth and there was no one among them at the time who was sinless to begin the execution either. [/quote] And look how islamophobe, in her rebuttals, conveniently fails to copy my answer to her accusation! Do you know why I think you intentionally fail to copy my answer in your reply? Because you do not want people to read my answer. If you leave it out when responding, you hope people will not go back a couple of pages to read it. So here was my reply to your half story. Bumping this up.[/quote]
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