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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]We don't need Jackie Chan as our leader cause we are doing just fine.  Most minority groups have a "community leader" that speaks for the community, organizes the community, etc.. .  Some may lead just the local community, but isn't that a start?   You don't think having a "leader" would help your community?  I'm not saying every black person is lost. Clearly that is not the case.  But don't you think the black community needs to change at all? Or is it that everyone around them needs to change first?  Like I said, racism is real.  But how is the community helping themselves?    Maybe they are and the rest of us just don't see it.

So then what do *you* think needs to happen in the black community?  Maybe you are upper class, so this isn't your community.  Then this doesn't really apply to you, does it.[/quote]

Asians are doing just fine? Really? Then why are many of you fighting tooth and nail to get to the US? How are things in your home country? Everyone doing great and not in need of any great Asian leader? How...interesting.

BTW, there is no black community. There is a black race. This idea that we are all interconnected is false and needs to stop. It's asinine and small-minded thinking. [/quote]

Then we need this cleared up.  I hear "black community" all the time from my black colleagues.

Furthermore, when we talk about the achievement gap (black and Hispanics vs. whites and Asians). we are lumping all blacks and Hispanics together.  Do we address this supposed need or not?  b/c this is a national concern that's the focal point in every major school system

Is it EVER appropriate to use community?  I've never been slapped for using it.  I was slapped for using "black sheep" (in reference to myself) in front of three black colleagues.  I thought that was a little over the top.  But maybe I was in the wrong?

So maybe WE'RE - the whites and our "diverse" communities (?) - are just confused!

Words can be powerful.  They shape our views.  So maybe you can enlighten White America?

I'm all eyes.  [/quote]

When blacks use "community", it's more related to our race/ethnicity. It is difficult to explain, but it is different and does not suggest a monolithic way of defining black people.

re: education. I'm not an educator. But I will say this: Who are the decision makers when it comes to our educational system? What race are they? Do they have the best interest of minorities at heart?  Our students are as good as our teachers and many of them who teach minority kids don't give a damn. They play DOWN to what they think the students will know/be able to grasp and the low expectations result in students left behind.

You're been slapped for saying black sheep? I find that very hard to believe, unless your comment surrounded that word was especially outrageous.

[b]BTW, don't be "all eyes" regarding what I say. I'm one black person. Why would you imagine that I would have ALL of the answers about black people? Do you profess to be an expert on all things white?[/b][/quote]

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