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The key point is that poor kids are not going away.  And while it's true that they may need a different approach than kids from affluent households, there is no way to segregate by SES without creating worse outcomes for the poorer strata. [/quote]

The poor kids are going away around Stanton Park, slowly but surely.  Dive into US Census data for 1990, 2000 and 2010 if you doubt this.  You can see that that the juvenile low SES population of the catchment area for L-T went from around two-thirds low SES to one-third low SES over a 20-year period.  On current trends, by 2020 the catchment area juvenile pop will be roughly 15% low SES.  In US Census data, kids are a lot more likely to be counted where their mothers reside than in DCPS stats.

How can you argue the above when the best test scores for low SES kids in the aggregate in this city, and others, are not in fact found at socioeconomically diverse schools but at those segregated by SES?  When you consider DC CAS scores by subgroup, you see that the best results for low SES kids are found in KIPP schools, like DC Key Academy, and at Achievement Prep, vs. in desegregated schools like Maury and Watkins, and by a long shot.  The truth is that kids in the the best "segregated" charter programs, serving only poor children of color, score proficient or advanced on the DC-CAS are rates approaching high SES kids elsehwere in the city, in the 70s and 80s.

What the best charter programs are doing is keeping low SES kids away from dysfunctional families, tough home lives and families who can't offer much in the way of intellectual stimulation many more hours a week than traditional public schools like L-T do.  KIPP requires significantly longer school days (as well as Saturday school), and shorter vacations than DCPS schools do.

If we want to help poor kids, maybe we need to deal with the awkward truth that voluntary segregation by SES is creating significantly better academic outcomes for the poorer strata, at least at the elementary and middle school levels, than integration outside GT programs.  We have no evidence that it's creating better social outcomes, but that's another conversation.

Point this out and you'll surely be called a racist many times over in any discussion relating to L-T's future, but the data are there.  [/quote]

The secret to kipp success is a lot of drill and kill and a boot camp like atmosphere. It's a prison like atmosphere. Th3y basucally condition the kids into behaving in a certain way. Those who can't handle it get kicked back to their home school and kipp gets all the credit for succeeding in teaching the well behaved, non special ed students. [/quote]

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