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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I think our desire to desegregate has bit us in the ass. We shouldn't look at segregation from an educational standpoint as a bad thing, esp. when students have different needs. [/b]We need to segregate at the early elementary school level. ESOL students together learning basic English and then must pass an entrance exam to get into regular schools. The regular school must be about teaching various subjects, not basic English, and needs to meet the needs of the top 1/2 performers. What is taught in Potomac must be taught in Wheaton and I assure you, that isn't the case and that is what is causing a lot of the issues. Students can't move into the next grade until they are ready. I don't understand why we have kids in a regular school setting that don't speak English - that is a proven recipe for disaster as classes become more and more fragmented. Keep ESOL separate until they learn the language. SES is a separate issue and schools should not be responsible for feeding or clothing disadvantaged students. That is the role of welfare.

[b]At some point, ESOL students will have a good command of English and will assimilate into regular school, leveling the playing field a bit.[/b] The next issue to tackle is to stop promoting poor students to the next grade. Whether it be via testing or other methods, if a teacher does not feel that a child is ready to move on, tehn they shouldn't. I know too many high school graduates that can barely write.

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The ESOL students will be in their own classes, where they learn nothing but basic English, and then at some point, they will have a good command of English and will assimilate into regular school, despite not having been taught any of the stuff the kids learn in the regular school?

If you're wondering why the ESOL students are in the regular school setting -- well, that's one reason.[/quote]

"We conclude that in the field of public education the doctrine of ‘separate but equal’ has no place. Separate educational facilities are inherently unequal. . ."[/quote]

Has nothing to do with separate but equal. It has everything to do to make sure ESOL kids are brought up to speed quickly enough so they can assimilate into the regular school. Why should the fluent students (and this includes all nationalities) have to suffer when some of their classmates aren't keeping up?[/quote]

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