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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It kind of speaks for itself that a thread on why men don’t date anymore devolves into back and forth quibbiling about money and sexy old successful singles calling men (who are presumably qualified to answer the question credibly) incels. There is a deep rot at the heart of gender relations. People are just really really bitter it seems.[/quote]

We didn't become "sexy successful older singles". First of all, we are not even "singles" and never had been during adult phase of life. We who respond are married, were married, or all in long term relationships. So we base our opinions and recommendations based on our own life experience.

Being married/partnered is one of the most important choice you make in life that determines your mental, physical and financial stability later in life. Read what Warren Buffet thinks about it:

"Warren Buffett views marriage as the most important life and financial decision anyone can make. He emphasizes choosing a partner who inspires self-improvement, applying a pragmatic approach of low expectations rather than looking for a flawless fairytale. Marryng the "Right Person" is the most critical decision of a person's life, which profoundly shapes aspirations, daily habits, and overall success. Also being realistic and having low exceptions of a spouse is also very important"

These men who are single until early 40s clearly didn't follow some of Buffet recommendations and their expectations are not aligned with their target dating group, for whichever reason. [/quote]

Well, Buffet’s first wife up and moved to CA and left him. He was (prob still is) a workaholic and seems low in terms of EQ so not sure I’d listen to his marriage advice….[/quote]

So a man must have all of the money and resources, but he can't be a "workaholic", whatever that means. Childish.[/quote]

Duh. Thst's what they have been telling you, and you keep arguing. You can have all the money in this world, and women will still get tired if you  lack substance.

But you don't want to listen because working like a dog is easier than developing a personality, empathy, and emotional intelligence.[/quote]

You take relationships from "glass half empty" viewpoint. Why don't you think of them and your marriage from "glass half full" standpoint? That marriage is the practical institute that is meant to raise a family while taking the related risks. That life is long, and things may change. So things need to be considered in the dynamic perspective of whole life, not just what you want at that moment. And never loose yourself in marriage because one you do, you start blaming the spouse for every unsuccesful joint decision (liky buying a 1.7mm house you coulnd't afford) [/quote]

Glass half full starts with a man who has time to parent with me so that I too can have a career while our children benefit from being taken care of by both parents. A workaholic is a non-starter. I don't need a 1.7mm house, thank you. If I can't have that, the glass is empty no matter how much money is in it.

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And that's great - you know what you want/need. Nobody tells you should marry Warren Buffet or similar career minded man. Your expectations are reasonable for what you want/need. Everyone who clearly knows what they want and bring to table get partnered.

A 40 yo man making 150K who thinks a 27 yo hot woman making 150K is his match does not have reasonable expectations and therefore he's not partnered. I bet when he was in his 20s he was struggling as well with his age peers women, so there is something more to it, for sure[/quote]

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