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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I like how people here casually act as if the majority of the world has terrible colleges for teaching, since most countries have no need or reasons for LACs. Research universities are the best model everywhere else and universities like  Oxford, Cambridge, ETH Zurich, PSL all operate without needing to be tiny colleges with little research opportunity.[/quote]

The model is different.  Germany for example, all universities are state-funded.  In many countries they have teaching faculty that are more focused on teaching the undergraduates.  Their research universities' experience resembles more of a liberal arts education.

In US, the professors are a lot more focused on writing grants, and managing their postdocs and graduate students.  It's more like a sweat shop if you ever worked in a lab, the owner (the professor) has to spent a lot of time working in "his" or "her" own shop.  Teaching is a side kick.

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The issue is that the ivies, which are the topic of interest, are nothing like sweat shops, with the exception of maybe Cornell. Professors do teach, often quite small undergraduate courses.[/quote]

My spouse was a professor at MIT.  Of course he taught small classes but his promotion are not based on teaching - just research and funding.[/quote]
Well he is also a professor at MIT…which isn’t of discussion as it’s a research institute that has a very different focus than Harvard or Yale college.[/quote]

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